Feb. 11, 2025

All Around the World: Fred Noonan

All Around the World: Fred Noonan
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What happens when napping becomes an Olympic sport, and BeatBox beverages take center stage? Tune in to our latest episode where Kate and I explore the art of napping, with a humorous twist that might just inspire you to perfect your snooze. As we sip on the spirited flavors of BeatBox, our candid reactions promise plenty of laughs and maybe even a new favorite drink. Plus, fuzzy memories of our Hawaiian adventure weave through our chat, adding a personal touch to our playful banter.

Ever considered a career change from the sea to the sky? Fred Noonan did just that, and his journey is nothing short of remarkable. From dodging German U-boats to charting new courses across the Pacific with Pan Am, Fred's adventurous spirit shines through. We recount his story, filled with maritime exploits and aviation milestones, highlighting his indelible mark on history. His transition from a ship's deck to the cockpit serves as a testament to relentless pursuit and daring ambition.

As history buffs well know, no tale is complete without a bit of mystery. The final chapter of our episode delves into the unsolved disappearance of Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan. We explore the myriad theories that have puzzled historians for decades, from crash-landings on remote islands to intriguing espionage tales. Recent discoveries, tantalizing evidence, and enduring speculation all make for a riveting discussion. Join us as we unravel these mysteries and invite you to stay curious with the History Buffoons Podcast, where the buffoonery never stops.


How did Amelia Earhart die? Here’s what researchers think happened to the famed pilot.

By Clare Mulroy-USA TODAY

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2023/11/10/what-happened-to-amelia-earhart/71314660007/


Tantalizing Theories About the Earhart Disappearance

Explore theories about Amelia Earhart’s final days—some more plausible than others. By: Elizabeth Hanes

https://www.history.com/news/what-happened-to-amelia-9-tantalizing-theories-about-the-earhart-disappearance



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Chapters

00:16 - Fred Noonan

08:26 - Navigating the Sky and Sea

18:46 - Mysterious Journey With Amelia Earhart

33:07 - Exploring the Amelia Earhart Disappearance

47:02 - Ancient Greece, Spill the Beans

51:23 - Stay Curious With History Buffoons Podcast

Transcript
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Oh, hey there.

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What the hell?

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Oh, hey, there, question mark.

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I'm Kate and I'm Confused.

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Bradley.

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What was that Excit, that excitement?

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That is the weirdest excitement I've ever heard in my life.

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But carry on I haven't had my nap yet today, so I'm trying to force excitement that's exactly what we want for our podcast who to who what?

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Should we start over?

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No, I think we should keep going, because this is fucking Comedy, gold, podcast, gold right here.

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This is going to get us to the top of the charts.

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Bradley likes to make fun of my napping skills.

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I don't like to make fun of it.

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Well, maybe that's not exactly accurate either, but she can nap with the best of them yeah like if there was a napping in the olympics, kate would probably win at least silver, if not gold, every fucking time.

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And the only reason why I say silver sometimes is because sometimes she just lays down and doesn't sleep yes, that does happen most of the time holy balls nap for days like oh, you literally nap for like.

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Your naps are like longer than some people like sleep.

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So well, I haven't had one yet.

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No, today no, well, that's unfortunate for you.

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I apologize for your your lack of sleep in the middle of the day why don't you introduce us to what we've got in front of us here, all right in the container?

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yeah, well, they're.

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Yeah, they're different.

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You've seen coconut water before right yes the same container.

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So if people have known that it's like the same packaging, so I've I've known about these for a while.

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Um, I've never had one myself, but uh, they're called beatbox and they're 11.1 percent.

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Oh shit.

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This is what you picked for us.

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Oh shit.

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Do we want to go to the other ones?

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Nope, I am excited.

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I am excited, Holy balls Batman.

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So it's what do they kind of consider?

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It's like it says contains alcohol.

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World's tastiest party punch, best served chilled, must be 21 plus.

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Yes, but for what I understand is it's not like wine, it's I don't know, it's almost like a pre-made cocktail, basically is what it is, so it's made out of a plastic like almost like a milk carton.

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Yeah, like the coconut water.

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We have to like lift up the corner flaps.

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Uh huh, you don't have to do that.

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You don't have to do that it actually has like a.

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Screw top yeah.

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Um, but it's.

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It's a plastic box essentially, yeah.

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It's uh, it's different packaging.

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Yeah, how many?

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It's 16.9.

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So 11.1% at 16.9.

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I think we're going to feel a little something after this.

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So it says that it was packaged in Acompo California.

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Oh, is that where it's?

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from yeah, and I have the fruit punch beat box.

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Okay, did you read the servings per container?

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No 3.38?

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What there's over three servings per container.

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No 3.38 what there's there's over three servings per container oh, so are we taking shots of this, uh?

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No, we're just gonna, we're gonna sip on it.

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So why don't we open it up before we change our minds?

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oh my gosh, okay I feel like I don't know how I feel about this all of a sudden, okay, screw top Cheers.

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Cheers.

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I'm going to say that's different.

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Mine tastes like fruit punch.

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Mine tastes like alcohol.

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Okay, I mean, mine tastes like alcohol, but with fruit punch.

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But how many beers have I said?

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Well, I wouldn't even notice that was 9%.

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I noticed, this is 11.1%.

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Oh, you might want to try mine then.

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Yeah, Is it better.

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I like it.

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I'm not saying it's bad, it's it's.

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Oh, I didn't.

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Mine is pink lemonade.

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Yeah.

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That's what I cause.

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You said your flavor, I forgot to say mine.

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Yeah.

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No, it's not my go-to type beverage.

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Like I like cocktails, this to me isn't a cocktail it didn't say that we had to shake it or anything I don't think so.

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I don't believe so, but but I'm I'm confused why mine tastes better than yours well, maybe it's just more up your alley than mine.

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I guess that could also be it as well do you want to try mine?

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I I guess that could also be it as well.

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Do you want to try mine?

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I mean we could, should we like football it across the room?

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No, because that's going to cause an extremely bad mess and let's not do that.

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Okay, I'll get my lazy Susan out and put it down.

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No, okay, maybe we'll do this later.

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Yeah, how about?

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we sample each other's.

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Later you can pour some out in a glass of your.

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A shot glass.

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Yeah, and I'll do the same for you, and then we can try it.

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Okay, so once before you had said that you have been to Hawaii, yes, once in my life.

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Do you remember your flight to Hawaii?

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I remember we were delayed on our way back.

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That's all I honestly remember about the flights.

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Really, that's all you remember.

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Yeah, I don't recall the flight out there.

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Yeah.

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It's because it's been what 28 years?

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Mm-hmm.

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So I've had a lot of beers between then, Mm-hmm.

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So no, I honestly don't remember.

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I want to say I think we had to fly into California and then we flew there.

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I don't think we had to have like a direct from out this way to there.

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I think that would be way too long if there was a direct flight from the center of the country to Hawaii.

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I think that's what we did, but no, I honestly really don't remember the flight at all.

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When I flew to Italy, we had a stop in I think it was Newark.

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Yeah, you had said that.

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Yeah, and I too.

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I don't really remember it.

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I remember the dread because I cannot stand flights over two hours, like I get claustrophobic feeling and like I have to get up and stretch.

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And there's so many people in the way, it's really overwhelming.

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I can understand that a hundred percent.

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Yeah, so uh, when I'm looking at flights for random things, or you know, even just like looking around stupidly for like, just for whatever, yeah, yeah.

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I'm like, oh, that's too long, I'd rather drive.

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Where can I go within two hours?

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Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.

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I do remember my flight to Germany.

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Oh, okay.

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Cause we flew out of O'Hare to Amsterdam.

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Oh, okay.

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I do remember that flight.

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I remember the flight back even more so because we went there in 08 and this is before.

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Movies were like out the next day, even though they were in a theater yesterday.

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Yeah, timeframe, yeah.

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And I remember being able to watch, because it wasn't even out on DVD or Blu-ray at the time we got to watch, because it wasn't even out on dvd or blu-ray at the time we got to watch iron man on our way back.

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Yeah, because it was like just being about to be released, kind of thing, and a lot of movie, uh, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

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Uh, studios, there's the fucking word.

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Um had deals with like airplanes and stuff yeah, they would put the the movies on their flight.

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So I got to watch iron man on the way back.

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That's exactly how I found out about Harry Potter.

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Oh really.

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I don't remember if it was to or from Italy.

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But that's when you first watched it.

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I watched the very first Harry Potter, and then I started reading the books after that.

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That's funny.

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Yeah, I just saw it in a movie theater in Brookfield.

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Yeah, not on a plane, well.

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Well, we're talking about some flights today, but we're going to talk specifically about Fred Noonan.

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Fred Noonan.

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Do you know who he is?

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I don't.

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So he is of Irish heritage.

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He was born in Cook County, Illinois, so Chicago thereabouts.

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Did you notice that a lot of your stories involve Illinois?

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It's not planned.

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I'll tell you that I hope not, yeah.

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So he was born on April 4th 1893.

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Okay, okay.

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And he was born to Joseph uh Noonan.

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And he was born in Maine.

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And then his wife, Catherine Egan, was born in London.

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Oh, wow, okay, um, and he lost.

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Fred lost his mother when he was just four years old.

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Oh, that's too bad.

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Fred left school in the summer of 1905 and went to Seattle Washington where he started a maritime career.

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Oh, really yeah.

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Okay.

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I'm sorry.

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Did I mention flights?

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I meant boats.

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I'm kidding, they're both in here.

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Wow, wait, which one's in the air and which?

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one's on the sea.

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I'm gonna take another shot of this.

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Oh my god, I guess I will too yeah, let's, let's see what the second taste is like I will give it a little shake this time, just because why not?

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that's what I do, yeah my the back end is a little alcoholy but but the front end is very much fruit punch.

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I really don't taste pink lemonade Bummer yeah.

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That's too bad, yeah, sorry.

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We'll fix that later.

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So Fred served on a series of merchant ships and he progressed through the ranks and he accumulated a lot of experience and certifications.

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Okay, so at 17, Fred shipped out of Seattle as a seaman on a British sailing ship called the Crompton and between 1910 and 1915, he worked on over a dozen ships.

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Wow, yeah.

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So like he was like super, he was all over the place.

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Yeah.

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So he quickly climbed the ranks to become a quartermaster.

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Okay.

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Which is basically someone who assists the officer on deck, and he was a navigator and then he was promoted to a bosun's mate, which did a lot of ship maintenance and training and operations.

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I've heard of that before.

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Oh, have you.

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Yeah, wonderful.

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So during World War I, fred, lived in New York and sailed on both American and British merchant ships.

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He never actually joined the Navy, it was all.

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Oh, it's all private.

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Yeah, okay, gotcha.

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So, um, he actually did still face quite a bit of danger.

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Well, I'd imagine.

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So.

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I wish there was more information on this, but I really couldn't find it other than a statement.

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But he on the merchant ships he was actually carrying some ammunition and he had three different ships that he was on sunk by the German U-boats.

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Oh Jesus, yeah, and there's no information on it.

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It's crazy.

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That's wild.

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Yeah, you would think there'd be something out there.

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Yeah, but despite these close calls, uh, he kept sailing and after the war he became a well-respected ship's officer so in 1926 the us shipping board gave him a top level license to captain any size ship oh wow, yeah so he always got like the highest marks and his performance reviews and he had a ton of dedication to his work so he was a very, very committed person.

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He was a hard worker.

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Yeah, yeah, at 34 years old.

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Fred got married to josephine sullivan in jackson, mississippi in 1927, and he's all over the united states too yeah, because you said he was up in what seattle?

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was it Seattle?

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Yeah, then New York and now Mississippi, and they settled down in New Orleans after a honeymoon in Cuba.

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Wow yeah.

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Honeymoon in Cuba, not something you can do today.

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Not something you can do today.

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That's crazy.

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So then Fred landed a job as a chief mate on a Mississippi shipping company ship, ship and a chief mate is basically second in command to the captain oh, okay so after a 22 year career at sea, including seven trips around cape horn like of africa yeah, no, for sure yeah, um, and three of those trips were on sailing ships.

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Wow, yeah, that's crazy.

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Fred decided to try something completely new.

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So at 39, he's trying something new he took to the air.

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Wow yeah, so that's quite different.

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Yes, so he learned to fly in the late 1920s and he got his pilot's license in 1930.

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Wow Okay.

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So still being who he is the next year.

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He still got a class master license that says class master, any ocean.

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It's basically the highest qualification for a ship captain.

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Do they still do that today?

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Stuff like that I would imagine in some degree right, I'm sure many people are both on ships and in airplanes.

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I'm sure many people are both on ships and in airplanes.

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He's rubbing his eyes, not impressed.

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I don't know.

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Podcast gold, so in the early 1930s Fred joined Pan Am oh dear.

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He worked as a navigation instructor in Miami and then managed the airport in Port-au-Prince, haiti.

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Port-au-Prince yeah.

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He's all over the place he really has gotten around the world.

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Yeah, so he eventually became an inspector for all Pan Am airports as well.

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Do you remember what year Pan Am closed?

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No, Do you?

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Yeah, what is it 1991.

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Oh, good job.

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Yeah, fred used his seafaring navigation skills to help develop new techniques for Pan Am flying flights across the Pacific Okay.

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Okay, sure.

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So in March 1935, fred and his wife moved to Oakland, california.

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Geez another new place.

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For the rest of the year.

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He was a key player in pioneering commercial air travel across the Pacific, serving as a navigator on survey flights, so he would navigate before the commercial passengers would, so they could literally figure out where the hell they're going.

00:13:57.028 --> 00:13:59.427
Yes, a flight plan, if you will, yes, correct.

00:13:59.528 --> 00:13:59.708
Yes.

00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:11.436
So he made history as a navigator on the first Pan Am Sikorsky S42 Clipper in San Francisco Bay.

00:14:11.436 --> 00:14:12.961
I know that's.

00:14:12.961 --> 00:14:14.787
You know all about the Clippers.

00:14:16.049 --> 00:14:18.763
Anyway, the LA Clippers, they're a basketball team.

00:14:19.303 --> 00:14:19.604
Are they?

00:14:20.405 --> 00:14:20.666
Yes.

00:14:21.027 --> 00:14:23.711
Really, yes, awesome Los Angeles Clippers.

00:14:23.711 --> 00:14:24.714
Do you know what a Clipper is?

00:14:25.419 --> 00:14:26.605
No, because you're going to tell me.

00:14:27.068 --> 00:14:31.644
A Clipper is basically the first commercial air route across the Pacific Ocean.

00:14:31.644 --> 00:15:11.033
Okay, so he navigated a round trip through a China Clipper flight between San Francisco and Honolulu as well, um, so fred continued to play a crucial role in the clipper routes throughout the the pacific ocean, and he started participating in flights to midway island, guam, the philippines, hong kong and, in 1936, um, he flew at least like 21 times for pan am, and they included very long distance test flights and round trip crossings to Manila, which is the capital of the Philippines.

00:15:11.033 --> 00:15:20.813
So, in addition to modern navigational instruments, fred was also known for bringing a ship's sextant on these flights.

00:15:21.115 --> 00:15:21.375
Sure.

00:15:22.182 --> 00:15:35.465
So a sextant is a navigation instrument that essentially measures the angular distance between two objects, and a lot of times it's used like, based on like where the horizon is isn't it also used with stars?

00:15:35.465 --> 00:15:49.495
It can be, yes so sometime later that month he did resign from pan m as he thought that he couldn't really go up any further in the ranks and he actually wanted to start a navigation school anyway, oh okay.

00:15:49.495 --> 00:15:53.826
So he was just like yeah, I'm good, I'll just do my own thing yeah, yeah that makes sense.

00:15:53.846 --> 00:15:58.320
So 1937, big year for fred okay, big year.

00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.683
He was already famous as a top navigator.

00:16:00.683 --> 00:16:04.129
He helped start commercial airline navigation.

00:16:04.129 --> 00:16:05.091
He was a big deal.

00:16:05.673 --> 00:16:08.783
Big deal, big deal in flight, right In flight.

00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:13.421
And he started his own navigation school Right March 3rd of that year.

00:16:13.421 --> 00:16:15.927
Also big news he filed for divorce.

00:16:16.690 --> 00:16:17.370
Oh, did he really.

00:16:17.511 --> 00:16:22.585
Yeah, but then he fell for a woman named Mary Beatrice Martellini.

00:16:22.585 --> 00:16:25.312
She was another divorced woman with no kids.

00:16:25.312 --> 00:16:27.948
She owned a beauty salon in Oakland, california.

00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:32.826
He didn't have any kids with the first wife, right, correct, okay, I didn't think you said anything about that.

00:16:32.986 --> 00:16:38.426
Yeah, so that same year, fred was then hired by a pilot who was planning a trip around the world.

00:16:38.827 --> 00:16:39.168
Oh geez.

00:16:39.421 --> 00:16:48.080
The pilot bought a super advanced plane called the Lockheed Electra 10E plane with money from Purdue University.

00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:54.894
So for all those aviation nuts out there, maybe you know what a Lockheed Electra 10E plane is.

00:16:55.461 --> 00:16:58.890
I've heard of a Lockheed before, but I couldn't tell you anything about it.

00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.504
It looks like a plane, you don't say.

00:17:02.504 --> 00:17:19.363
I actually have a picture of it, right right here for you, yeah it really does and it has like landing gear landing yeah yeah, so that's what it looks like and this will be exactly so weird.

00:17:19.363 --> 00:17:24.348
A little bit of uh visibility in the windshield and yeah.

00:17:24.769 --> 00:17:25.951
Does it have windshield wipers?

00:17:25.951 --> 00:17:26.932
I?

00:17:26.951 --> 00:17:27.732
don't know, do they?

00:17:27.874 --> 00:17:29.935
Probably yeah, Most of them do Cool.

00:17:30.299 --> 00:17:32.247
Anyway, that will be on our social media, jesus Christ.

00:17:32.247 --> 00:17:33.289
So that's the plane.

00:17:33.289 --> 00:17:36.869
So they're going to go around the world near the equator.

00:17:36.869 --> 00:17:43.305
So airlines are already flying all over the world at this point, so not super new.

00:17:43.305 --> 00:18:04.509
But Fred had just quit pan am, he was ready to do this just got divorced yeah, so he was the expert that they needed, especially for the flight from hawaii to howland island, and it is a tiny island in the middle of the pacific ocean oh, okay it's about halfway between austral Hawaii.

00:18:04.608 --> 00:18:12.181
It's technically, as of now it's an uninhabited, unorganized territory of the US and it's actually kind of a nature preserve right now.

00:18:12.382 --> 00:18:14.888
Oh really, yeah, so that's under our jurisdiction.

00:18:14.888 --> 00:18:16.071
Yeah, I didn't realize that Okay.

00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:28.406
So Fred's first appeared in the news as a member of the crew on March 13th 1937, and their first attempt to take off was delayed by bad weather on March 16th of that year.

00:18:28.406 --> 00:18:34.203
So, taking advantage of the delay, fred, there we go.

00:18:34.203 --> 00:18:35.568
It's the fruit punch.

00:18:35.568 --> 00:18:37.685
I'm going to have a little bit more, because I like mine.

00:18:37.685 --> 00:18:40.865
It's tasty, it's tasty, it's getting better the more I drink it.

00:18:40.865 --> 00:18:43.786
Aka, you're carrying less.

00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:46.928
Yes the more I drink it, aka, you're caring less.

00:18:46.928 --> 00:18:54.330
Yes, so fred inspected the plane's navigation equipment and discovered a problem oh, what's the problem?

00:18:54.612 --> 00:19:23.313
he was shocked to find that they only had a simple ship sextant for navigating now that seems like a terrible idea if you're going to try and go around the fucking world yes, because it is meant to find a horizontal point yes, when you're in the sky you don't know where horizon is sometimes yeah, exactly so he fixed this by borrowing a modern bubble octant which is used in aviation, but it's honestly similar to a level.

00:19:23.493 --> 00:19:25.579
Yeah, correct, yeah, it balances itself out.

00:19:25.579 --> 00:19:30.390
Yes, even if you're turning it's still going to be yes level yes within the bubble.

00:19:30.530 --> 00:19:40.824
So yeah, yeah, so, um, with the octane secured, um they, they took off from burbank, california, on march 17th, setting it a record flight to hawaii.

00:19:40.824 --> 00:19:49.182
Now, on march 19th, fred sent a telegram to mary his, his new fling yeah uh, leaving 1 30 am your time.

00:19:49.182 --> 00:19:54.383
The pilot has asked me to stay with with them until at least darwin, australia, and maybe even longer.

00:19:54.383 --> 00:19:55.846
I love you, fred.

00:19:55.846 --> 00:20:11.730
Okay, so they were going to go from honolulu to howland island, to papua new guinea and then darwin, australia, okay okay so the next day, as the electra was taking off for the next leg to howland island, the wing hit the ground.

00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:12.712
Oh shit, yeah.

00:20:12.712 --> 00:20:13.601
How did it do that?

00:20:13.601 --> 00:20:29.286
I don't know oh I don't know, maybe it just I don't know, maybe she got they got it like a twitch in the in the arm, because sometimes I do that like if I'm massaging someone's glutes with my elbow, my whole arm twitches and I'm like sorry, that was me, that was not your glute releasing.

00:20:29.286 --> 00:20:33.760
They're like okay, you're like okay, Sometimes.

00:20:33.760 --> 00:20:35.969
I have to preface that because they're like what was that?

00:20:35.969 --> 00:20:39.884
I was like, that was just me spasming, Jesus Christ.

00:20:40.104 --> 00:20:40.825
All right Anyways.

00:20:40.924 --> 00:20:43.007
So the wing hit the ground, yep.

00:20:43.007 --> 00:20:50.674
The pilot shut down one engine to keep the plane balanced, but it spun around and the landing gear broke.

00:20:50.674 --> 00:21:01.712
Nobody was hurt, that seems like a terrible idea to have happen, but because the plane was so damaged, they shipped the plane back by sea to LA for repairs.

00:21:01.952 --> 00:21:04.547
Gotcha Okay, and this was still from Hawaii.

00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:14.200
Yes, okay, yes, yes so a week later, on march 27th, fred and mary get married in yuma, arizona oh, did they take the 310 to yuma?

00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.145
Where do you think they'll go next?

00:21:17.145 --> 00:21:18.107
Maybe montana do?

00:21:18.107 --> 00:21:20.961
You get that reference yeah, it's a movie, I think.

00:21:20.961 --> 00:21:22.403
What do you mean?

00:21:22.423 --> 00:21:24.569
you think, it's two movies movies.

00:21:24.589 --> 00:21:25.792
I've never seen it A remake.

00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:27.445
Yeah, the remake's really good.

00:21:27.445 --> 00:21:32.107
It's got Batman, christian Bale and Russell Crowe in it.

00:21:32.107 --> 00:21:33.946
Oh nice, it's actually a really good movie.

00:21:33.946 --> 00:21:36.561
Yeah, and it's a remake of an older Western.

00:21:36.682 --> 00:21:37.867
Yeah, oh, it's a Western.

00:21:38.220 --> 00:21:39.988
I think they should go to Montana next, okay.

00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:41.926
And then like British Columbia or something.

00:21:41.926 --> 00:22:04.001
I mean it makes sense, because he's a pilot they get married and they plan to settle in oakland, but but decided to spend a little honeymoon in hollywood, since fred was kind of waiting for these repairs to to finish right, yeah sure.

00:22:04.001 --> 00:22:12.945
So after the electroplane was certified airworthy on may 19th, fred was present in burbank so it took him two months to fix the plane.

00:22:13.166 --> 00:22:13.928
Yeah, oh, wow.

00:22:13.928 --> 00:22:15.898
Yeah, I mean that's pretty significant damage.

00:22:15.898 --> 00:22:20.457
Yeah, yeah, I mean I get the timeframe we're talking about, but I wouldn't have guessed two months.

00:22:20.457 --> 00:22:21.378
Yeah, so okay.

00:22:21.819 --> 00:22:28.479
So, uh, fred went to Burbank and the next day they did like a sneak takeoff Um yeah, just to test it.

00:22:28.479 --> 00:22:37.108
So they actually went to Florida and then they flew back to California, cause that's where they wanted to start for their around the world trip is California.

00:22:37.108 --> 00:22:39.640
So they went to Florida, everything's good, let's go back.

00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.746
I mean, that's quite a flight.

00:22:40.746 --> 00:22:42.375
Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking.

00:22:42.375 --> 00:22:49.278
From California to Florida, I mean why not go to California to like Vegas or something, but whatever, because that's not that far, I guess.

00:22:49.838 --> 00:22:54.267
I'm sure they just wanted to have a significant amount of time in the air to make sure everything's good.

00:22:54.267 --> 00:22:56.650
So I get it, but I wouldn't have guessed Florida.

00:22:56.755 --> 00:22:58.762
And he had to flex his navigation skills again.

00:22:58.762 --> 00:23:00.862
He's been on the ground for two months.

00:23:01.375 --> 00:23:04.224
Yeah, he's got to get warmed up, basically, yeah, exactly.

00:23:04.795 --> 00:23:07.684
So more than a month later they embarked on a second.

00:23:07.684 --> 00:23:09.336
So they waited another month.

00:23:09.336 --> 00:23:16.903
They finally did their second attempt at the world flight um from Burbank, this time going East.

00:23:17.263 --> 00:23:19.566
So they they said fuck this, we're going East, bitches.

00:23:19.746 --> 00:23:25.971
Yeah, so they just abandoned their original plan flight plan and went to the East.

00:23:26.555 --> 00:23:27.638
Okay, so where do they go from?

00:23:27.638 --> 00:23:32.345
From California, so it's a whole big zigzag yeah.

00:23:32.555 --> 00:23:38.214
And I'll put a um a map on our social media because it does say, like where they all went All right cool.

00:23:38.214 --> 00:23:46.503
So I think I don't remember if they stopped they would have had to stop again in the US, but then they went to like England or something.

00:23:47.015 --> 00:23:50.987
I would imagine they probably stopped somewhere on the East Coast and then across the Atlantic right.

00:23:52.076 --> 00:24:04.208
So on May 30th the pilot announced that they had initially planned to fly solo across the Pacific, but now that they had Fred with them, they wanted to keep Fred with them for the whole trip.

00:24:04.208 --> 00:24:14.579
So the pilot described their 40-day eastward journey from Burbank to New Guinea as leisurely, leisurely, yeah, like no problems.

00:24:14.820 --> 00:24:19.442
Did they have a flight attendant serving cocktails and shit?

00:24:19.522 --> 00:24:20.384
I mean, I don't know.

00:24:20.645 --> 00:24:21.186
One's dinner.

00:24:22.875 --> 00:24:26.162
So Fred meticulously tracked their progress.

00:24:26.162 --> 00:24:33.040
But Fred wasn't always stuck in like the back of the of the plane as navigator.

00:24:33.040 --> 00:24:37.960
He actually went up to the cockpit and talked to the pilot quite a bit and that pilot was Amelia Earhart.

00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:39.503
What Come on?

00:24:39.503 --> 00:24:40.487
Boom, boom, boom.

00:24:40.487 --> 00:24:45.262
I kept her name a secret this whole time, Except for I said she a couple times.

00:24:45.996 --> 00:24:47.381
I guess I didn't pick up on that.

00:24:47.481 --> 00:24:50.785
she Uh-huh, because I switched it to they like really fast.

00:24:50.785 --> 00:24:57.556
But this is the flight that Ameliaelia earhart and fred noonan took around the world.

00:24:57.977 --> 00:25:04.497
But nobody knows about fred noonan no, because she was a woman and that was that was more significant.

00:25:04.497 --> 00:25:08.547
Yep, then this isn't obviously the one where she goes missing, right it is.

00:25:08.547 --> 00:25:09.675
It is that flight.

00:25:09.675 --> 00:25:11.980
Yep, did he go missing too he?

00:25:11.980 --> 00:25:15.306
Was with her the whole way so we're gonna learn that here shit.

00:25:15.306 --> 00:25:17.750
Yeah, no, I I didn't know there was anyone with him.

00:25:17.750 --> 00:25:38.589
Yeah, I feel like we've been lied to this yep entire time, 45 years been lied to by amelia amelia earhart yeah, she had a passenger, a navigator, the whole time I didn't, okay, continue, yeah, wow so he'd only go back to the rear of the cabin when he needed space to like work on his charts and stuff.

00:25:39.016 --> 00:25:39.717
How do you think?

00:25:40.258 --> 00:25:48.786
how difficult was it for him to like okay, we're here on this map, Like I couldn't even fathom doing that in 1937.

00:25:48.786 --> 00:25:57.729
Right, Well, he had 22 years on the I understand, but like you're in the air and it's like cause, you've got to track speed and all that so you can properly.

00:25:57.729 --> 00:26:02.071
Lots of math, lots of math, which I like math, but man, that had to be difficult.

00:26:02.071 --> 00:26:05.323
Yeah, yeah but he's clearly experienced because 22 years so.

00:26:05.323 --> 00:26:06.385
Yep, all right.

00:26:06.954 --> 00:26:12.901
So together, Earhart and Fred, they would actually communicate mostly by writing notes because the engine was so loud.

00:26:12.901 --> 00:26:18.546
Communicate mostly by writing notes because the engine was so loud, I bet it was yeah.

00:26:18.546 --> 00:26:19.789
So together they expected to reach howland island.

00:26:19.809 --> 00:26:21.134
So we're coming from the east right coming back.

00:26:21.153 --> 00:26:30.710
Yeah, so howland island is roughly 2,500 miles from um, from lay, which I I thought I looked up where lay was.

00:26:30.710 --> 00:26:40.141
My apologies, papua new guinea okay okay, so 2,500 miles from papa new guinea, okay, and it was about 18 hours of flight flight time.

00:26:40.141 --> 00:26:46.137
So there was um a coast guard cutter called the it's it it is.

00:26:46.137 --> 00:26:49.145
Can they not just have normal words?

00:26:51.057 --> 00:27:13.740
it aska it, aska it aska, spell it i-t-a-s-c-a itasca, itasca, that sounds better yeah tasca um, so they were stationed at howland okay waiting for fuel and they would receive like intermittent messages from from um amelia erhart and fred noonan Right, as like her signal improved towards that area.

00:27:13.740 --> 00:27:32.320
Sure, but neither Amelia nor Fred knew Morse code, so it kind of prevented two-way communication, right, and it was actually uncertain whether they actually heard any of the Itasca's transmissions at this time and were these warnings to them?

00:27:33.335 --> 00:27:34.159
No, it was just.

00:27:34.159 --> 00:27:35.595
They were just trying to communicate.

00:27:35.714 --> 00:27:48.067
Yeah, gotcha, yeah so, fearing the loss of contact, the navy and the coast guard launched a massive search operation because, all of a sudden, there was no communication, nothing, nothing from them.

00:27:48.067 --> 00:28:00.458
They covered approximately 200 250 000 square miles of ocean that is a lot of square miles yes, so how many square kilometers is that?

00:28:00.458 --> 00:28:02.442
Are you kidding me right now?

00:28:02.442 --> 00:28:03.023
You butt head.

00:28:03.023 --> 00:28:06.834
So obviously very costly.

00:28:06.834 --> 00:28:08.155
There were daily expenses.

00:28:08.155 --> 00:28:11.559
Daily expenses, oh yeah at around 250 000.

00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:12.181
Oh my god jesus christ.

00:28:12.361 --> 00:28:13.582
yeah, so At around $250,000.

00:28:13.582 --> 00:28:14.403
Oh my God, jesus Christ, yeah.

00:28:15.223 --> 00:28:29.140
So 18 months later, the Navy officially declared Earhart and Fred Noonan dead, concluding that their plane likely ran out of fuel and crashed into the Pacific Ocean.

00:28:29.140 --> 00:28:40.943
And today many experts believe a combination of bad weather the long journey essentially caused the plane's downfall, sure, but we, we all know pretty much like air heart went missing.

00:28:40.943 --> 00:28:43.107
No evidence was ever found.

00:28:43.107 --> 00:28:53.805
And then occasionally there might be something that would pop up on some kind of discovery channel like hey, we found these bones in this really remote island and it could be Amelia's.

00:28:53.944 --> 00:28:58.238
Didn't they just say they just found it, like not that long ago?

00:28:58.238 --> 00:28:59.240
Yeah, I'll get to that.

00:28:59.240 --> 00:28:59.882
Oh, you're good.

00:28:59.882 --> 00:29:00.663
Okay, never mind.

00:29:02.047 --> 00:29:04.852
Sorry, no, but like poof they're just gone.

00:29:04.852 --> 00:29:07.961
Yeah, and that was like they're almost the last leg.

00:29:07.961 --> 00:29:09.486
They were almost there.

00:29:09.486 --> 00:29:14.262
Yes, so if they would have reached Howland Island, it would have been Honolulu and then Burbank.

00:29:14.262 --> 00:29:15.585
Literally that's all.

00:29:15.585 --> 00:29:19.233
That's wild, isn't that crazy that they made it that far?

00:29:20.154 --> 00:29:20.797
I guess I never.

00:29:20.797 --> 00:29:32.488
I, of course, know of Amelia Earhart and I've known about her my entire life, right, I never really did much research or reading or anything on her, though.

00:29:32.488 --> 00:29:46.414
So I didn't realize, realize they made it that far in their flight, and I mean, you always think of things like I know this isn't accurate, but you always think of things well, they got lost in the bermuda triangle or whatever fucking bullshit.

00:29:46.414 --> 00:29:49.060
Right, as a kid you just make up shit in your head.

00:29:49.060 --> 00:29:55.444
But I didn't realize they literally made it that far into, uh, into their journey, I guess.

00:29:55.766 --> 00:29:59.404
Yeah, but imagine what would have happened if they went the original way.

00:30:00.655 --> 00:30:06.366
I find it funny because you kept Amelia Earhart's name secret until well you did.

00:30:06.386 --> 00:30:07.548
I was ready to tell you yeah.

00:30:10.077 --> 00:30:18.426
So I think it's funny, because do you think, when they were originally on Honolulu and she hit the wing, do you think he's like female pilots?

00:30:18.426 --> 00:30:20.449
I hope not.

00:30:20.449 --> 00:30:22.392
I hope so, god.

00:30:22.392 --> 00:30:26.082
I had to get that in there.

00:30:26.082 --> 00:30:26.502
I'm sorry.

00:30:27.717 --> 00:30:41.025
So there were some film footage that would suggest that the plane's belly antenna might have been broken off during takeoff which could also explain why the pilot couldn't receive radio and transmissions from the flight.

00:30:41.025 --> 00:30:44.382
So okay, so now we're going to go into a few theories.

00:30:44.382 --> 00:30:46.570
It's not going to be a lot no, but there's.

00:30:46.692 --> 00:30:57.962
There's plenty out there, I'm sure so the belief is that amelia earhart and fred noonan ran out of fuel and their plane crashed into the ocean Essentially A crash and sink theory.

00:30:57.962 --> 00:31:06.063
Okay, pilot and navigator Joe Lodridge conducted extensive research and proposed a different scenario.

00:31:06.063 --> 00:31:16.998
He believes Fred made an error in his navigational calculations, specifically in determining his position using the sun's angle near the horizon.

00:31:16.998 --> 00:31:26.221
This error, combined with wind data, led Lodridge to think that their position was likely farther east than previously thought.

00:31:26.221 --> 00:31:27.546
They were completely off track.

00:31:27.875 --> 00:31:29.538
Sure, I mean that's very probable.

00:31:29.538 --> 00:31:30.780
I mean you could make a huge argument for that being correct.

00:31:30.780 --> 00:31:34.587
I mean that's very you could make a huge argument for that being correct.

00:31:34.587 --> 00:31:35.769
Yeah, yeah, obviously.

00:31:36.134 --> 00:31:50.115
So, according to Laudridge's analysis, their final crash position could have been about 60 miles southeast of Howland Island Okay and 30 miles east of Baker Island, which is another tiny little blip of land.

00:31:50.234 --> 00:31:51.519
Is that near Howland Island?

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:52.364
It is Okay, yeah.

00:31:52.974 --> 00:32:07.223
So the theory suggests that they flew the expected distance, made their planned 90 degree turn because they had to like, apparently had to do a major turn, but ultimately missed the island due to a navigational error.

00:32:07.355 --> 00:32:12.366
You said Howland Island is basically it's under our jurisdiction, but it's mainly just like a nature preserve.

00:32:12.366 --> 00:32:15.362
Yeah, was there a runway on this island at one point?

00:32:15.362 --> 00:32:18.348
Then there's a big beach, just just a beach.

00:32:18.348 --> 00:32:20.454
So how would they have ever landed on that?

00:32:20.454 --> 00:32:26.007
I don't know, because that plane clearly needs a runway, right, am I wrong?

00:32:26.106 --> 00:32:29.059
I mean it could get sunk in the sand, so I don't know.

00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.286
Yeah, but okay, you've been on a beach before.

00:32:32.286 --> 00:32:40.086
If you were going really fucking fast, you would basically your feet would get sunk and fall face first into the fucking sand.

00:32:40.326 --> 00:32:41.509
Yeah, nosedive.

00:32:42.996 --> 00:32:43.920
There you go.

00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:50.224
You got there, but basically that's what a plane would do, but a lot worse because it would probably blow up and shit like in movies.

00:32:50.224 --> 00:32:51.469
Because that's what they do.

00:32:51.628 --> 00:32:59.682
They blow up, yes, no matter what you look at it so apparently the us government did build a land strip or a landing strip on the island.

00:33:00.183 --> 00:33:07.746
Okay and well, if you're gonna get there, it was in the 1930s that they did that, so she was planning on having a runway.

00:33:07.766 --> 00:33:21.442
Yeah, yeah huzzah, look at me being all smrt so one theory suggests that their plane crash landed not in the ocean but on the remote and uninhabited nukumaro.

00:33:21.442 --> 00:33:32.989
Nukumaro that's 100 verified located approximately 400 miles south of howland island that's quite significantly long distance.

00:33:33.230 --> 00:33:34.954
Yes, because that's not even close.

00:33:35.596 --> 00:33:45.037
So because three years after their disappearance and an expedition to that island, they uncovered human remains.

00:33:45.458 --> 00:33:46.619
But that doesn't mean it was theirs.

00:33:46.619 --> 00:33:48.163
No, did that?

00:33:48.163 --> 00:33:50.288
Did their coat say air heart on it?

00:33:50.568 --> 00:33:52.940
I mean when they dug it up it was a skull that they found.

00:33:52.980 --> 00:34:22.907
Yeah, exactly, so I mean so that's a researcher from university of tennessee analyzed these bones and concluded that, yes, they likely belong to amelia airheart they're making a name for themselves according to a 2018 study published in forensic anthropology, the bone characteristics exhibited a high degree of similarity to air heart compared to 99 of individuals in the reference sample.

00:34:22.907 --> 00:34:32.876
We do not know what that sample is, so therefore it's huge, inconclusive, basically, basically yeah, so none of fred's remains were found.

00:34:32.876 --> 00:34:42.768
However, a sexton box resembling the one that he carried was discovered among the debris on this Nicaragua Island.

00:34:42.947 --> 00:34:44.170
Yes, call it Remote Island.

00:34:44.170 --> 00:34:45.672
Yes, south of Holland.

00:34:45.672 --> 00:34:47.541
So, 400 miles.

00:34:48.315 --> 00:34:53.987
So another theory some people think that President Roosevelt actually sent them on a mission to spy on Japan.

00:34:53.987 --> 00:34:55.166
Oh good Lord, seems pretty far fetched, but it does.

00:34:55.166 --> 00:34:55.856
Think that president roosevelt actually sent them on a mission to spy on japan?

00:34:55.856 --> 00:34:57.262
Oh good, lord um seems pretty far-fetched, but it does.

00:34:57.262 --> 00:35:01.215
If they were a spy, they took a really strange route to get to japan, am I?

00:35:01.257 --> 00:35:01.556
right?

00:35:01.556 --> 00:35:16.625
Yeah, because their first route would have made way more sense, because they were going west, which is where japan was from california and if it was a secret mission, they had a lot of media following them maybe they were just trying to throw them off.

00:35:16.625 --> 00:35:17.706
Let's go east.

00:35:17.706 --> 00:35:22.067
Don't ever guess that that's funny.

00:35:22.335 --> 00:35:24.242
Not exactly top secret Not so much.

00:35:24.242 --> 00:35:28.346
So yet another theory says that they didn't disappear.

00:35:28.346 --> 00:35:35.248
They claim that they crash, landed somewhere in the Marshall Islands and the Japanese military captured them.

00:35:35.835 --> 00:35:42.001
I have actually heard that theory and seen photos that they lead to believe it's Earhart.

00:35:42.001 --> 00:35:42.844
But then where's Noonan?

00:35:42.844 --> 00:35:48.099
Yeah yeah, because he was not, and so again, I didn't do extensive research.

00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:49.684
In this little thing I read yeah.

00:35:49.684 --> 00:35:51.782
No mention of anybody else.

00:35:51.943 --> 00:35:55.315
Yeah, so again I feel that's weird, because they didn't even know he existed.

00:35:55.695 --> 00:36:01.547
Apparently he didn't log, he didn't check in at the flight when they left, so or whatever.

00:36:01.547 --> 00:36:03.699
I mean, how did?

00:36:03.699 --> 00:36:06.905
How have we not ever heard of this guy before, like at least for me?

00:36:06.905 --> 00:36:11.922
I'm sure someone has, for sure beyond us, but like I had never heard of this guy before yeah.

00:36:11.922 --> 00:36:13.085
I had no, like.

00:36:13.085 --> 00:36:16.652
They always made it seem like Earhart did it on her own, Mm-hmm.

00:36:17.253 --> 00:36:18.094
That's kind of horseshit.

00:36:18.094 --> 00:36:20.663
It was always first solo flight.

00:36:20.663 --> 00:36:22.215
That's all I feel like.

00:36:22.235 --> 00:36:27.996
that's how it's always been said First woman solo flight, or at least portrayed yeah, yeah, no, that's.

00:36:27.996 --> 00:36:31.967
And I find that really fucking weird because clearly she was not alone.

00:36:37.974 --> 00:36:38.836
No, because clearly she was not alone.

00:36:38.836 --> 00:36:44.836
No, so she was supposed to be solo, but and she like recruited him to do like the hardest part, going west from hawaii to howland, right, but then she's like, no, I think okay.

00:36:44.836 --> 00:36:58.086
And then, well, then at one point fred wrote mary and said she actually wants to keep me on until australia right which would have been um two stops after howland correct because they were going to stop in papa new or new guinea papa new guinea.

00:36:58.268 --> 00:36:58.630
Is that right?

00:36:58.690 --> 00:37:15.181
okay, that's what you said I didn't know if that was a rock star, rapper or whatever, but as opposed to mama new guinea I guess there's papa roach anyway, oh jesus christ um so after they decided, okay, we'll go east, and said she's like come with me the whole way let's do this so she was supposed to be by herself Anyway.

00:37:15.762 --> 00:37:18.664
That's just wild, though I find that strange, but yeah.

00:37:18.864 --> 00:37:26.094
Supposedly, the Japanese captured them and they died while being prisoner on the island of Saipan In 2015,.

00:37:26.235 --> 00:37:52.442
a team led by a former FBI guy named Sean Henry found an old photo in the National Archives's probably what I saw then, yeah and it was taken by the office of naval and naval intelligence, which shows a ship towing a barge with a plane on it and, um, there's people on a nearby dock, and sean henry thinks that it was the electro plane and that two of those people on the dock were amelia and fred.

00:37:52.442 --> 00:37:58.137
Sure, so also the idea of erhart being taken by the japanese isn't new.

00:37:58.137 --> 00:38:12.398
Um, people have been talking about this since the 1960s, right, and some marshall islanders even claim to have seen her plane land, um, on the marshall island and being taken by the japanese, like the quote-unquote witnesses, which are never reliable.

00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.442
No, because people make shit up.

00:38:14.661 --> 00:38:16.844
Yes, however, to add to this yes.

00:38:16.844 --> 00:38:19.726
Two guys named Les Kenny and Dick Spink.

00:38:20.148 --> 00:38:20.628
Dick Spink.

00:38:21.068 --> 00:38:22.891
Spink S-P-I-N-K Dick Spink.

00:38:23.050 --> 00:38:23.512
I got it.

00:38:23.512 --> 00:38:25.280
That's a fantastic fucking name.

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:25.623
Sure is.

00:38:26.235 --> 00:38:30.686
They found some metal pieces in the Marshalls and they think it came from Earhart's plane.

00:38:31.266 --> 00:38:42.264
Okay, I mean you can think whatever you want, like I could go walk outside your house and be like oh my God, she flew over here because I found a screw.

00:38:42.264 --> 00:38:46.695
It's like yeah, yeah, oh, show me fucking proof, don't just tell me you think it's from her fucking plane, anyways.

00:38:47.157 --> 00:38:51.266
So January 2024 last year that's hard to believe.

00:38:51.266 --> 00:38:58.695
Last year sonar images were released that showed a strange object on the sea floor.

00:38:58.695 --> 00:39:04.615
It was about 100 miles from howland island, okay, okay, so super close that kind of tracks.

00:39:04.615 --> 00:39:16.523
Yeah, exactly the discovery looked like a shape planed object on the ocean floor and it reignited like this huge global interest in her disappearance.

00:39:16.543 --> 00:39:18.576
I think I faintly recall some of this.

00:39:19.398 --> 00:39:22.909
So People were wondering could this be the Electra?

00:39:23.460 --> 00:39:25.467
Lockheed Electra 10E.

00:39:25.467 --> 00:39:25.768
Yes.

00:39:26.940 --> 00:39:35.894
Deep Sea Vision, the South Carolina-based company that originally found the object on the seafloor, returned to the site just November 1st.

00:39:36.561 --> 00:39:37.364
So just a couple months ago?

00:39:37.364 --> 00:39:38.188
Yes, okay.

00:39:38.641 --> 00:39:43.813
So after further investigation, they determined that the object was actually just a natural rock formation.

00:39:43.833 --> 00:39:45.717
I remember, oh my gosh, I remember hearing about this just a natural rock formation.

00:39:45.717 --> 00:39:51.108
I remember, oh my gosh, I remember hearing about this what a buzzkill, I know it's like they didn't have any beat box.

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.146
Also, I have these images too, so I'll post them on social media, yeah.

00:39:54.146 --> 00:40:22.963
So Tony Romero, who was the CEO of the Deep Sea Vision Company he was a former Air Force intelligence officer and pilot himself he described the rock formation as, quote, the cruelest formation ever created by nature that's awesome, yeah he also said it's almost as if someone deliberately arranged those rocks to mimic the shape of a plane, just to teach those tease those searching for her right.

00:40:23.445 --> 00:40:35.260
So um romeo expressed surprise that the object wasn't even a different plane or some other man-made structure because it looked so much like a plane.

00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:44.936
Yeah, right so he told cnn quote we didn't celebrate prematurely because we wanted to be absolutely certain, but there was definitely a moment of disappointment.

00:40:44.936 --> 00:40:57.621
Well, yeah, we took a moment to reflect and then we got right back to work exploring new search areas but, can you like imagine seeing that formation in january and then, 11 months later, going back and be like psych?

00:40:58.563 --> 00:41:13.262
no, I know that's that sucks, because they got their hopes up so much like holy shit we might have found something and like the location was right on right on within reason of them running out of gas or issue or whatever it was where they crashed.

00:41:13.282 --> 00:41:15.387
So it's like, holy fuck, did we find this?

00:41:15.387 --> 00:41:21.905
And it's just funny because, you know, almost 90 years later, right 37 is when they went missing.

00:41:21.905 --> 00:41:32.056
So we're almost to 90 years and they're still just let's put a lot of fucking priority into finding apparently just one person's plane, not the other person on there.

00:41:32.056 --> 00:41:40.672
Yeah, but it's crazy that they have that much like let's keep looking, because what is that going to bring to the world if they find it?

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:46.161
They're going to investigate the actual plane and see if they can determine find it.

00:41:46.181 --> 00:41:48.206
They're going to investigate the actual plane and see if they can determine.

00:41:48.206 --> 00:41:49.913
But okay, so if the plane's been in the ocean, which likely that's?

00:41:49.913 --> 00:41:52.641
Where it is, what has the salt water done to that plane?

00:41:52.641 --> 00:41:57.581
I don't know look what it's doing to the titanic I don't know science really that was a much.

00:41:57.762 --> 00:42:01.818
She had that or chemistry or life I mean chemistry is science, but okay.

00:42:01.818 --> 00:42:04.826
Or life, I mean chemistry is science, but okay, it's all encompassing.

00:42:05.045 --> 00:42:08.922
How are your math skills Terrible, I know.

00:42:08.981 --> 00:42:10.184
So are my reading skills.

00:42:10.184 --> 00:42:13.327
I'm really, I am a true buffoon.

00:42:14.309 --> 00:42:16.132
And I am history because I'm old.

00:42:16.132 --> 00:42:18.155
Is that how we got our name Historic?

00:42:19.342 --> 00:42:20.327
Okay, let me continue.

00:42:20.327 --> 00:42:20.768
All right, anyways.

00:42:20.768 --> 00:42:24.990
So Deep Sea Vision, that company, announced they actually have an Instagram page.

00:42:24.990 --> 00:42:27.534
Oh, so, deep sea vision, that company announced they actually have an Instagram page.

00:42:27.534 --> 00:42:28.239
Oh, so, so progressive.

00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.148
So you can actually like track their progress or whatever.

00:42:31.228 --> 00:42:32.643
Oh, really, you can follow along.

00:42:32.643 --> 00:42:33.909
Basically, yeah, okay.

00:42:34.460 --> 00:42:43.684
So, after discovering the rock formation, they explored over a thousand square miles of the ocean, bringing their total search area to 7,700 square miles.

00:42:43.684 --> 00:42:45.266
Their total search area to 7,700 square miles.

00:42:45.266 --> 00:42:45.347
Wow.

00:42:45.347 --> 00:42:53.835
So, while this wasn't the outcome, they were wanting the experts emphasize that this search they're going to continue, they're not going to stop.

00:42:53.835 --> 00:43:01.074
So there's still hope that one day they will figure out what happened to Fred Noonan and his pilot.

00:43:01.737 --> 00:43:02.418
Amelia Earhart.

00:43:02.418 --> 00:43:04.827
So how do you get funding for that?

00:43:04.827 --> 00:43:08.248
I mean, give me funding, I'll go fucking.

00:43:08.248 --> 00:43:11.146
Look, I have no idea what I'm looking for, but I'll fucking do that.

00:43:11.186 --> 00:43:15.130
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, maybe they're independently wealthy, who knows?

00:43:15.619 --> 00:43:24.523
There's got to be some grants or whatever along those lines that pay the bills for them to fucking look for a plane that's almost 90 years gone.

00:43:24.523 --> 00:43:30.550
I mean, I want to call somebody tomorrow and be like hey man, I'll do it, Give me some money.

00:43:31.092 --> 00:43:32.512
Did you like my sneak?

00:43:32.512 --> 00:43:33.855
Amelia Earhart attack.

00:43:34.476 --> 00:43:38.344
Yeah, crazy women pilots Fucking shit up.

00:43:38.947 --> 00:43:44.257
I actually said she twice and I'm like she they and it's funny, I did.

00:43:44.739 --> 00:43:47.320
I did not catch it, I did not clearly pick up on that.

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.666
I managed okay time I know.

00:43:50.666 --> 00:43:54.554
So I heard you have an idiom for me.

00:43:54.554 --> 00:43:55.496
You heard wrong.

00:43:55.496 --> 00:44:03.088
Oh, kidding oh all right so I'm gonna drink my 11.1 alcohol volume.

00:44:03.088 --> 00:44:06.072
Fruit punch by beatbox.

00:44:06.434 --> 00:44:11.204
Oh my God, please, please, don't, don't beatbox, don't beatbox.

00:44:11.405 --> 00:44:11.826
Okay.

00:44:12.306 --> 00:44:17.755
Oh, my word, let's move on, woosa, all right.

00:44:17.755 --> 00:44:21.768
So the idiom I have for you today is spill the beans.

00:44:21.768 --> 00:44:23.592
Okay, you've heard of that before.

00:44:23.731 --> 00:44:24.072
I have.

00:44:24.072 --> 00:44:24.614
I've used it.

00:44:24.614 --> 00:44:27.862
Yes, let the cat out of the bag no, we're doing.

00:44:27.882 --> 00:44:28.445
Spill the beans.

00:44:28.445 --> 00:44:29.166
What the fuck?

00:44:29.166 --> 00:44:30.471
Why are you fucking shit up right now?

00:44:30.471 --> 00:44:33.789
Drink your drink, woman, all right.

00:44:33.789 --> 00:44:39.483
So spill the beans is an idiom that means to reveal private or secret information.

00:44:39.483 --> 00:44:43.172
For example, you might spill the beans about a surprise party.

00:44:43.172 --> 00:44:44.360
I'm not going to read these examples because they're kind of dumb.

00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.139
I thought I was going might spill the beans about a surprise party.

00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:45.860
I'm not going to read these examples because they're kind of dumb.

00:44:45.900 --> 00:44:51.393
I thought I was going to spill the beans by saying she referring to the pilot, versus they.

00:44:52.001 --> 00:44:52.762
Way to bring it back.

00:44:52.922 --> 00:44:53.344
You're welcome.

00:44:53.885 --> 00:44:54.728
You're good at some things.

00:44:54.748 --> 00:44:55.228
I'm listening.

00:44:55.771 --> 00:44:58.085
I'm listening, I'm SMRT.

00:44:58.085 --> 00:45:04.293
The idiom is often used in casual conversation and is not appropriate in formal context.

00:45:04.293 --> 00:45:09.505
Casual conversation and is not appropriate in formal context.

00:45:09.505 --> 00:45:12.393
So, basically, you're not going to be like in a in a corporate board meeting, being like spill the beans, tina.

00:45:12.393 --> 00:45:15.400
It's like what, um, I don't know anyways.

00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:22.289
So the the the phrase, originated in the united states in the early 20th century.

00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:22.989
What so?

00:45:22.989 --> 00:45:25.672
When is that 1900s?

00:45:25.672 --> 00:45:26.494
Anyway?

00:45:26.494 --> 00:45:28.635
Good, good, I'm gonna put I always.

00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:58.641
I always have cricket noises I always have to like double check because it's off by one 20th century is the 19th century, 21st century, sorry, it's the 1900s, the 21st century is the 2000s like yeah, I have to like, think about it and no remember that's why I asked you, because I fucked that up a couple times so um, anyways 1900s historians believe the idiom may have come from an ancient greek voting method where beans were used to cast votes.

00:45:58.641 --> 00:45:58.822
Have you?

00:45:58.822 --> 00:46:07.226
Ever heard that before so basically they would have two different colored beans and two jars, and usually they weren't clear, they were jars, so you couldn't see.

00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.840
So I'm thinking like black beans and like lima beans, white beans, Dark kidney beans.

00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:13.603
Red kidney beans.

00:46:13.702 --> 00:46:15.206
Red kidney beans yeah Making some chili.

00:46:15.306 --> 00:46:17.271
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to make my chili again.

00:46:18.181 --> 00:46:21.652
Let's do some white navy beans and black beans.

00:46:21.652 --> 00:46:23.326
That's what they used, go.

00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:28.682
Have you ever had chickpeas which are also garbanzo?

00:46:28.702 --> 00:46:31.248
beans, yes, but not in a traditional setting.

00:46:31.951 --> 00:46:38.291
Someone made a dip with it, or something so in the band I used to be in, we always wanted to um name him album.

00:46:38.291 --> 00:46:43.264
Uh, chickpeas in public places your album yeah, it would be chickpeas in public places.

00:46:43.264 --> 00:46:47.449
So when I used to visit sar Sarah at the grocery, store that she worked at.

00:46:47.449 --> 00:46:51.894
I would go grab a can of chickpeas and put it in a random place, anyways.

00:46:52.675 --> 00:46:52.956
Why.

00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:59.902
Because chickpeas in random places, Anyways.

00:46:59.902 --> 00:47:02.409
So where was I?

00:47:02.659 --> 00:47:05.007
Two different kinds of beans for voting in ancient.

00:47:05.027 --> 00:47:05.911
Greece, oh yeah.

00:47:05.911 --> 00:47:11.391
So basically you would have like I don't know if they were colored or they were just literally just the color of the beans.

00:47:11.411 --> 00:47:22.786
Different beans, yeah, separate them and you would like be voting for an office, you would put whatever bean you want into a specific jar and then they would spill the beans to count them out.

00:47:22.786 --> 00:47:24.070
Basically is what they're saying.

00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:25.452
So that's how they would spill the beans to count them out.

00:47:25.452 --> 00:47:26.192
Basically is what they're saying.

00:47:26.192 --> 00:47:28.293
So that's what the how they would determine the outcome of the election.

00:47:28.293 --> 00:47:49.909
But uh, they also say to which I've heard this, and I don't like this because I always go off of spill the beans because that's the one I knew prior to this but uh, related idiom is spill the tea, yeah, which a lot of people say these days, these days, yeah, it's like way over, fucking used these days to be honest but it also means to reveal secret information.

00:47:50.913 --> 00:47:59.072
Uh, but spill the tea is more closely associated with gossip, where spill the beans is basically when someone unintentionally gives something up.

00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.963
Okay, sure, sure, so, okay.

00:48:00.983 --> 00:48:08.474
So intentional versus unintentional if I was going to come to you and be like, well, spill the tea on X, y, z.

00:48:08.474 --> 00:48:11.237
Yeah, that means you would give up the information.

00:48:11.237 --> 00:48:14.670
Right or if I said hey, kate, did you hear about this?

00:48:14.670 --> 00:48:21.693
I'd be spilling the beans because I I unintentionally told you something I probably shouldn't have or whatever yeah.

00:48:21.693 --> 00:48:24.039
Or I said something and you overheard it, kind of thing.

00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:24.280
Right.

00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:25.802
It's like oh, brad just spilled the beans.

00:48:25.802 --> 00:48:29.809
Yeah, so, um, but yeah, so spill the beans.

00:48:29.809 --> 00:48:34.822
You, uh, basically give up secret information or personal information.

00:48:34.862 --> 00:48:35.244
I like it.

00:48:35.244 --> 00:48:38.110
I didn't know it was used for um voting.

00:48:38.552 --> 00:48:41.724
Yeah, that's cool, that's where they they think it came from.

00:48:41.724 --> 00:48:46.974
Yeah, um, because literally back in the day in ancient Greece they had beans.

00:48:46.974 --> 00:48:55.967
So they're like, well, pick which color and put it in the proper vessel, yeah, and then they would spill the beans out and count and see who won.

00:48:55.967 --> 00:48:59.347
So Cool, they were used that for elections.

00:48:59.347 --> 00:49:00.590
I believe they just stopped using that.

00:49:00.619 --> 00:49:02.989
Do you think they had Beano around back then?

00:49:03.139 --> 00:49:04.465
Beans, beans the magical.

00:49:04.465 --> 00:49:06.103
I've said this once already on the podcast.

00:49:06.103 --> 00:49:07.186
I'll stop, Okay.

00:49:08.940 --> 00:49:11.969
What did you think about your pink lemonade beat box?

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:15.309
I don't know if it's alcohol talking, but it got better as it went on.

00:49:16.460 --> 00:49:17.403
Are you finished with it?

00:49:17.565 --> 00:49:18.407
I'm empty.

00:49:18.407 --> 00:49:19.945
I have none to share.

00:49:19.945 --> 00:49:22.085
I apologize, so you finish yours.

00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.161
We'll see about that.

00:49:24.161 --> 00:49:30.014
Oh, dear I think I maybe have gone through a single serving out of the three point Three eight.

00:49:31.221 --> 00:49:35.463
Three, eight, so specific.

00:49:35.603 --> 00:49:36.125
I liked it.

00:49:36.125 --> 00:49:37.746
I really liked my flavor actually.

00:49:38.708 --> 00:49:39.130
I'm curious.

00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:41.954
I'll take a sip because I'm curious to try the flavor of yours.

00:49:41.954 --> 00:49:45.829
I felt like it wasn't very.

00:49:45.829 --> 00:49:46.420
I like pink lemonade.

00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:48.648
Yeah, which is why I gave that one to you.

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.706
Yeah, I mean, I'm telling you that I like it.

00:49:50.706 --> 00:49:55.150
I really don't, but anyways, I'm kidding Jesus Christ.

00:49:55.150 --> 00:50:01.371
No, I like pink lemonade, but initially it didn't taste like it at all.

00:50:01.371 --> 00:50:05.708
Again, it's probably the alcohol talking got better as it went on.

00:50:05.708 --> 00:50:07.222
I ended up finishing it.

00:50:07.222 --> 00:50:12.382
So sorry you don't get to try it, but you don't also really care for pink lemonade, right?

00:50:12.561 --> 00:50:13.364
so it's okay.

00:50:13.364 --> 00:50:27.688
Um yeah, I would much rather choose other drinks or lemonade, even pink lemonade I would much rather just have regular lemonade yeah, that too, either way yeah, um vesper really likes lemonade yeah every time we go visit Grandma she's always like lemonade.

00:50:28.992 --> 00:50:32.807
Okay, vesper, but she knows Grandma always has it because I always drink it when I go there.

00:50:33.108 --> 00:50:34.030
Yeah, it's kind of funny.

00:50:34.762 --> 00:50:35.545
But no, it was decent.

00:50:35.545 --> 00:50:39.550
I don't think I would go out of my way to buy this.

00:50:39.791 --> 00:50:39.992
Yeah.

00:50:41.704 --> 00:50:47.483
On a regular basis, but if it was available I wouldn't say no to it.

00:50:47.483 --> 00:50:48.567
Yeah, I'm curious at what other flavors they have?

00:50:48.586 --> 00:50:51.858
yeah, they had that a blue raspberry and a green apple, I think.

00:50:51.858 --> 00:50:52.641
Is that what that one?

00:50:52.641 --> 00:50:53.382
Yeah, I think you're right.

00:50:53.382 --> 00:51:02.739
I think there might be one or two others oh, I think there's actually a lot there I believe, if I'm not mistaken, they also have like zero sugar ones or something.

00:51:03.342 --> 00:51:09.445
something like it might not be zero sugar, but along those lines beatbox diet yo.

00:51:09.445 --> 00:51:11.849
Yeah, Get drunk and lose calories.

00:51:11.909 --> 00:51:14.780
I know what it is, what it's whisper beatbox.

00:51:16.963 --> 00:51:17.262
Welp.

00:51:17.262 --> 00:51:23.349
I suppose, All right, buffoons.

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