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Oct. 29, 2024

Mary's Comet: Mary Anning

Mary's Comet: Mary Anning
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Season 1

Ever wondered how a strawberry-infused gin and tonic could spice up your summer afternoon? On this episode, we trade in our usual beers for a refreshing cocktail creation. As Kate navigates the whimsical world of household temperature debates with her husband, Nathan, and their playful cat, Oliver, Bradley dazzles us with a gin and tonic featuring a twist of strawberry puree, lime, and mint. With guidance from his mom, Bradley embarks on his first puree-making adventure, and we toast to new concoctions while troubleshooting a minor audio hiccup along the way.

Journey with us back to the early 19th century as we uncover the life of Mary Anning—a remarkable fossil hunter whose legacy was nearly buried under the weight of her gender and social status. Despite the societal constraints, Anning's discoveries, including the ichthyosaur and plesiosaur, carved her name into the annals of paleontology and helped solidify the Jurassic Coast as a fossil hunting wonderland. We also reflect on how her sketches and findings contributed to the scientific recognition she deserved but often did not receive, and highlight her collaboration with prominent scientists of her time.

Before wrapping up, we let our curiosity guide us into the quirky world of idioms, pondering origins and peculiarities of English expressions like "costs an arm and a leg." Our deep appreciation for listener engagement fuels our passion for these linguistic mysteries, and we invite you to share your favorite idioms or historical curiosities with us. As we sign off, we're already brewing the next round of historical buffoonery, promising more laughter, learning, and lively discussions in future episodes. Stay curious, because the buffoonery never stops!


The Fossil Hunter: Dinosaurs, Evolution and the Woman Whose Discoveries Changed the World by Shelley Emling

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https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/mary-anning-unsung-hero.html


UC Museum of Paleontology
https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/anning.html

https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/anning.html#:~:text=Mary%20Anning%20has%20been%20cre

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Chapters

00:10 - Cocktail-Making and Cat Shenanigans

04:47 - Mary Anning's Fossil Discoveries

19:45 - Fossil Discoveries and Scientific Recognition

26:22 - Mary Anning's Fossil Discoveries

40:27 - Mary Anning's Fossil Discoveries Legacy

53:59 - Exploring the Origins of Idioms

58:48 - Historical Adventure With History Buffoons

Transcript
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oh, hey, there, oh, hello there.

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I'm kate and I'm bradley and this is history buffoons.

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Welcome to history, buffoons.

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How are you, kate?

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I'm warm.

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I know it's warm day outside, so yeah, my house is 72, so hopefully that will change wow, it's old well, no so you're saying it's 72 degrees?

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Okay I mean that's you gotta get specific fahrenheit, not celsius yeah, I um, I turned down, or I turned off the AC last week because it was a cool week, and then my husband gets home and he turns it back on, which I'm thankful for, because it needs it.

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But it's really high at 72 right now.

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Cat infiltration.

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They're like ooh, cords yeah yeah, they know it's almost dinner time anyway, so we do not have beers with us today we do not we have a cocktail cocktail yeah I decided that, hey, we've been doing a lot of beers, why don't we do a cocktail?

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are you okay?

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I'm really irritated at oliver right now yeah, well, we might have to take care of him short, or do that?

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It didn't work, oliver I like how you threw a mouse at a cat computer mouse folks yeah.

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Yeah, not a real mouse, cause she'd be like eek, um no.

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So my husband, nathan has been gone a little bit more um recently, and Oliver is definitely a daddy's boy and he is just wreaking havoc.

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He's missing some pop time.

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Yes, he very much is, which is understandable.

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okay, that's how my kitty sway was so yeah, okay.

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So tell me about the cocktail, because it's beautiful and we're gonna put a picture up on our on our website yeah, and maybe other places yeah maybe just the website okay, what is it?

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What is it?

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so it's just your traditional gin and tonic Love, which I know you're a fan of, I'm a fan of With some strawberry puree Garnished with a lime, strawberry and some mint.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, it turned out like the look of it turned out exactly what I was hoping for.

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Yeah, it's really really pretty.

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I don't know if we should mix the puree together.

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I don't know if I use too much puree.

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I don't know.

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You just made this up yourself.

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Yeah, I just.

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It's really not that in depth, it's just I just like let's add some fruit to a gin and tonic is what my head said, and like, ooh, strawberry would be good and tonic is what my head said and like ooh strawberry would be good.

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Well, it smells really good with that mint I know.

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That's why I went with the mint plus.

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It's also a good garnish yeah, so you said that you went to your parents to make this, so I'm curious about that I just I'd never made a puree before, so I said you asked mom I said hey, ma, do you help me make a strawberry puree?

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Sure, that's awesome, all right so I stopped over there.

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She helped me make a strawberry puree Sure.

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That's awesome, all right, so I stopped over there.

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She helped me make it, and here's to trying it.

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So are we supposed to put the lime in it?

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I mean, I want to because I like the lime flavor.

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But you know, okay, squeeze some in there.

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So I'll do my very best to squeeze the.

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Yeah, the glasses are rather full.

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I apologize.

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Okay, no, it's good.

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I suppose you could just probably eat the strawberry.

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Okay, so we fixed a setting, so if we sound a little different that's why I was sounding a little echoey before and now I feel like I don't Okay, so the gin and tonic tastes like gin and tonic, so maybe we have to.

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Okay, oh, I almost lost the strawberry.

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Not the strawberry I stirred it up, so I'll taste it with the puree like mixed in.

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Yeah, that's tasty.

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You like it?

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Yeah, I do.

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Awesome.

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It's really quite basic.

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Again, it's just a gin and tonic with one extra ingredient.

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technically, I wonder if we add just a touch of sweetener of some kind.

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We could.

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I mean the puree does have sugar in it.

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Yeah, oh does it.

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But I didn't want to over-sugar it.

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No, that's for sure.

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Yeah, because otherwise it's too sweet, kind of thing.

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It's delicious, I like it.

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Yeah, good job.

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Cheers to that, cheers to you.

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Okay.

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So I have a question for you.

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What's your question?

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What is your favorite nursery rhyme?

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Oh man, chutes and Ladders by Korn.

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It doesn't really count, because they incorporate a lot of nursery rhymes in there.

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Yeah.

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Have you ever heard that song?

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No.

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Oh man, we're going to have to change that.

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But why don't you tell me about an actual nursery rhyme?

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I mean, we've talked about Ring Around the Rosie.

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Yeah, we have.

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Do you have any other nursery rhymes that you like?

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There's like.

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Three.

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Little Pigs, and oh do you remember Baa Baa Black Sheep.

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Yeah, and the Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

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Yeah, I do enjoy that one.

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Do you remember the old man Hubbard and the dog, or something In the cupboard or whatever?

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Yeah, something like that, yeah.

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I don't remember the words to it, I remember the.

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I do remember the.

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I guess it's a nursery rhyme, right?

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I guess I would think so um, I don't know, I guess I don't know if I really have a favorite per se.

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Yeah, um, the baba black sheep is like the first one that came to mind, so maybe I guess, yeah, I.

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I think I'm more in favor of the Goldilocks than the Three Bears.

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Yeah, I'd agree with that.

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So do you have a favorite one?

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Is that what you would pick then?

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Yeah, there was a song that my mom used to sing.

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It was oh gosh, three bears in the bed and the little one said roll over, I'm tired.

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So they all rolled over and one fell out.

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Two bears in the bed and the little one said, roll over, I'm tired.

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So they all rolled over and one fell out.

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One bear in the bed and the little one said I'm lonely wow I'm not sure if that's like legit how it goes, but that's how I remember it, I mean mommy, you'll have to let me know.

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Hey, let us know I have.

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I can honestly say I've never heard that before.

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Yeah, well, I asked because there's actually it's not like nursery rhyme, but it's more of a tongue twister.

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Okay, um, there's actually.

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It's not like nursery rhyme, but it's more of a tongue twister.

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Okay, um the sea she sells she sells by the seashore.

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Yes, that tongue twister, yeah.

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So my story is kind of based on that.

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Well, vice versa, selling she sells she, she sells by the se shore.

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That rhyme supposedly came from the story, although there's no like definitive documentation on it.

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Gotcha, but it's the story of Mary Anning.

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Mary Anning.

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Mm-hmm, I am not familiar, do tell.

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Well, there is a movie based on Mary Anning, although it is so loose I don't even think we can compare it.

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Okay, it's called Ammonite, with Kate Winslet and Sershi oh, I don't know Saoirse Ronan.

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Yes, yes, yes, yes yes, she's what Irish right Scottish.

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Scottish Scottish.

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I don't know she's one of those two.

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Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm 50% right on one of them, sorry.

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Saoirse, ronan Saoirse yeah, I believe that's how you say her name.

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Yeah.

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Because I remember watching.

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Probably got to tell everybody how to pronounce it.

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Yeah, she's quite a lovely lady.

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Yeah, I really liked the movie, but it's very, very, very loosely based on when did that movie come out?

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Oh, probably within the last 10 years, maybe even shorter then.

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That would make sense, because I don't think she's very old yeah.

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Maybe like five years, six years.

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Okay yeah, just curious.

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Okay, so we're going to talk about mary anning um.

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She was born in 1799.

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Yeah into my wheelhouse here you're old, what?

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what?

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Well, that's not what you meant not even close.

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You meant the time period you enjoyed sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

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But hey, I'm old sure wow, she had to get that jab in early today, good lord he's not even 45 no, he's not old, I just I'm not even 45, and the reason why she says that is because I turned 45 very soon very soon.

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Yeah, okay, so she was born in lime regisis.

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Lime.

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Regis, it's not spelled like, but it's like the flavor that we have in our drink right now.

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So is it L-Y-M-E.

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Yes, lime Regis, and it is a Southwest English country of Dorset which is-.

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Oh, I know, dorset, yeah.

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It's right off the coast of the English Channel Right.

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So Lime Regis is now known as, or in that whole, like, strip of beach.

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Yeah, is known as jurassic coast.

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I thought you're gonna say park I was gonna say jurassic coat and I was like that's not the word and I had to like look down at my notes coast hold on, I forgot the s jurassic coast have?

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They found a lot of dinosaur bones there miss anning was the first, was a discoverer of many is this the one who found the full t-rex?

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no, oh, because you had brought that up not too long ago to me, right yes, so that was sue oh yeah, that yes and I think that was in South or North Dakota.

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That sounds right North.

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I don't know Either way.

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I don't know.

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Stay tuned to a few traps.

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Yes, Hope you enjoy Al.

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But this coast is where Mary Anning discovered her love of fossils.

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So the Anning family was very, very poor.

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Um her parents, richard and molly, had nine or ten children.

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Like they didn't even know how many, because, because, they had so many so many passed away.

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Oh really, only mary and her older brother, joseph, survived to adulthood so out of the potential 10, two lived basically, wow, that's crazy.

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So her father was a cabinetmaker and he was an amateur fossil collector.

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Oh, and Mary followed alongside her father by the time she was five, so she would go on outings with him nearly every day.

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Sure Together they would hunt for, for clean and display fossils in his shop interesting so lime regis is known for their exposed cliffs, and the cliffs are layered, with each layer representing a different time period and environment.

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Right and as sediments settled over millions of years, they were compressed and hardened into rock.

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The cliffs of Lime Regis are constantly being shaped by the forces of nature, so erosion can be caused by wind, rain and waves, which exposes the underlying rock, revealing the fossils within Sure, the fossils within sure.

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So they, the annings, would like go out to the cliffs right after a really big storm, because of all that potential erosion, because that's the best time to really see what the the storm could have brought exactly exposed.

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Yeah, so did they obviously live close, yes, right to these cliffs?

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yes, okay so mary had very, very little education, but she was able to read.

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So she taught herself geology and anatomy and she would copy poems.

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She would read a poem and she would just copy it word for word to kind of practice her reading and writing.

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Sure, so her father, richard, died in 1810 at 44 years old that's how old I am, I'm about to die.

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He fell off a cliff oh jesus getting a fossil.

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But he also had tb, so he we're not sure if he died of complications from the fall or from tuberculosis from tv.

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Yeah, gotcha, or maybe he survived the fall with injuries, but the tb yeah yeah, there's probably a lot of factors involved.

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Yeah so her brother, joseph, took over his father's shop and eventually became an upholsterer and um her mother, molly actually her name is also mary, but they call her molly the mom.

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So wait, there's two marys, there's, there's actually three what?

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oh my god, stay tuned one no.

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So one of the um children that passed away early on was mary the first and this is this, mary the second yeah, they, they named this mary out of off of the uh, the mary who passed, and then molly's name is also mary that's confusing.

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They really need to get more creative so molly's the mother who's also named mary yes, but they call her molly why do they call her molly I?

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probably to distinguish her from everyone else do you know how else they could have done that?

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Name them something else something else?

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yes, and then one of their daughters who died was named mary the first and then the mary anning that we're talking about was named after her sister, who died that's so weird.

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I mean, that's really strange because, like obviously there's.

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I mean typically you see juniors in the first and so on on the guy side of men, boys, whatever side of things for names.

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You don't see that a lot with females.

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Not a lot, but I think it's cool.

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I mean yeah.

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And confusing.

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So we have all the names down.

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Well, still confused, but yes.

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So Mary had very little education, like I said, but her mother, molly, encouraged Mary to help the family with the debts by selling the fossils that she had found with her father.

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Gotcha Okay.

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So her father died in 1810, right Yep.

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So in 1811, and because of the way the cliffs are designed in Lyme Regis, a large storm came and dissolved away layers of sediment, exposing fossils.

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So every time that happened she made that to her advantage.

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Right.

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So when Mary was 12 in 1811, one of these large storms happened.

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Joseph, her older brother, ended up finding a strange fossilized skull.

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Ooh yeah, can you imagine that being the first thing that you find?

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No, a whole skull that'd be pretty impressive actually so so he asked his younger sister he had to go back to work.

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He he didn't have time to mess with this right, but mary did.

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So he asked his younger sister to find more bones to go with the skull.

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She tried for a year.

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Holy crap yeah and just couldn't she just couldn't find it.

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Wow, but she did eventually after a year of looking.

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Oh, so there's a happy ending.

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But it took another large storm for her to find it oh, I suppose yeah.

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So basically just the head was revealed yeah on that initial storm and then a second one was needed to find, well, the body, I guess yeah, but I mean she would dig and, dig and dig and just never find it, but for a freaking year.

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I'm sure she's not going out there every single day of her life, but especially at 12 yeah, I mean that's pretty young, but back then, what are you gonna do?

00:16:35.796 --> 00:16:42.716
Yeah, isn't that crazy that is crazy so this time mary found a three inch wide vertebrae.

00:16:43.217 --> 00:16:49.875
Oh wow, that's a big vertebrae that is it was stuck in the cliffside several feet above the seaside.

00:16:49.875 --> 00:16:52.519
Okay, so she knew this was something.

00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:58.921
So, mary, with the help of towns, folks, she literally like, hey, y'all, I need some help with this yeah grab your shovels.

00:16:58.921 --> 00:17:16.398
She dug out a 5.2 meter long skeleton 17 feet holy shit, 17 feet that's impressive that's two and a half of you I know actually probably less than more than that a little, a little more.

00:17:16.439 --> 00:17:19.564
No, yeah, a little more math I, I can't I can't do it.

00:17:19.664 --> 00:17:35.594
It's almost three of me it's almost three of you yeah yeah, so in all there were 60 vertebrae that's a lot of vertebrae there was a four foot skull with sharp teeth and that is, and that's what the brother initially found yeah, the the skull.

00:17:35.594 --> 00:17:38.538
Yes, there were flippers like a dolphin.

00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:43.833
Oh, a mouth like a crocodile oh, so this is one of those sea dinosaurs.

00:17:44.654 --> 00:17:51.255
That's awesome a pointed snout like a swordfish I'm kind of picturing which one it is.

00:17:51.415 --> 00:17:52.357
Yeah, hopefully I'm right.

00:17:52.458 --> 00:17:57.131
But yeah, the spine of a fish right and the chest of a lizard.

00:17:57.131 --> 00:17:57.511
That.

00:17:57.531 --> 00:17:58.232
That's so weird.

00:17:58.854 --> 00:18:03.621
Yeah, so scientists actually thought that this was some type of crocodile.

00:18:04.301 --> 00:18:05.704
Well, yeah, because they didn't know better.

00:18:05.704 --> 00:18:05.805
Yeah.

00:18:09.130 --> 00:18:11.421
And the townspeople were like nah, that's a monster dude.

00:18:19.069 --> 00:18:23.260
In the early 1800s people thought that bones that they didn't recognize were just animals from other lands that happened to migrate there.

00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:23.923
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.

00:18:23.923 --> 00:18:33.490
Yeah, exactly, I mean so, not necessarily fossils, but like, hey, here's a bone from maybe a I don't know a bear from way back when I don't know, you know and even like they've found.

00:18:33.811 --> 00:18:38.823
They've found over time, different styles of bears that don't exist anymore today.

00:18:38.823 --> 00:18:42.338
It's almost kind of like evolved, or whatever you want to say.

00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:44.497
Right, but they didn't know that.

00:18:44.930 --> 00:18:58.863
No, because they had different like just I don't want to say facial features, because they couldn't see the face, but just like the structure of their bones was a lot different, their overall makeup of how their body would have went together is a little bit different, but very similar.

00:18:58.863 --> 00:19:00.155
So, yeah, I mean, I get that.

00:19:00.470 --> 00:19:09.184
Well, they thought about this migration because they were so sure that Genesis happened.

00:19:09.546 --> 00:19:09.746
Right.

00:19:09.910 --> 00:19:12.419
That God created Earth in six days.

00:19:12.789 --> 00:19:15.672
Well, and that's the thing, especially being very religious, you know orientated back then.

00:19:15.672 --> 00:19:21.076
That's all they knew, because that was before Darwin, right, especially being very religious, you know orientated back then before you know, that's all they knew.

00:19:21.076 --> 00:19:22.616
Cause that was before Darwin.

00:19:22.616 --> 00:19:23.857
Right, he was in the 1800s.

00:19:23.919 --> 00:19:25.980
That brings up my next point, literally.

00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:26.820
Holy crap.

00:19:26.881 --> 00:19:28.481
I was going to give you some context.

00:19:28.481 --> 00:19:32.025
Charles Darwin's work on the origin of species wasn't published for another 48 years.

00:19:32.025 --> 00:19:38.609
At this point, it's like I knew what you were going to say Exactly Do for another 48 years at this point it's like I knew what you were gonna say exactly?

00:19:38.609 --> 00:19:39.912
Do you know what I'm gonna say next?

00:19:39.912 --> 00:19:42.416
Hello, no, shit.

00:19:42.416 --> 00:19:44.382
No, not that either.

00:19:44.382 --> 00:19:45.022
So close.

00:19:45.765 --> 00:20:00.442
So the word dinosaur didn't exist yet okay okay, so the year, so this is 1811, right 1841, a scientist named richard owen coen.

00:20:00.442 --> 00:20:16.240
Richard owen coined there it is the word dinosaur, okay, and it originates from two greek words usually does dinos, which means terrible, powerful yep and wondrous, and sorrows, which means lizard, sure.

00:20:16.740 --> 00:20:18.222
So Terrible lizard.

00:20:18.844 --> 00:20:19.045
Yeah.

00:20:20.211 --> 00:20:21.213
Ultimately what it means so many?

00:20:21.255 --> 00:20:21.715
years ago.

00:20:21.715 --> 00:20:31.222
Yeah, okay, so Mary's landlord, who also owned quite a bit of the town, paid her 23 pounds for the skeleton.

00:20:31.824 --> 00:20:35.539
Wow, that probably was a lot at that time $3,000.

00:20:35.539 --> 00:20:37.275
Wow, I mean, that's for.

00:20:37.871 --> 00:20:40.010
For today it would be three thousand dollars.

00:20:40.010 --> 00:20:47.044
That equated to six months of her living expenses and, like I said early on, she's very poor.

00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:51.335
Their whole family is very, very poor that was a travelist and antiquarian.

00:21:03.092 --> 00:21:09.455
And he had a private museum called the Natural Curiosities of London, so it was donated to him.

00:21:09.455 --> 00:21:10.419
Sure, makes sense.

00:21:10.419 --> 00:21:15.481
So there the fossil was studied and debated for many years about what it could be.

00:21:15.481 --> 00:21:22.951
It was eventually named Ichthyosaurusosaurus ichthyosaurus or fish lizard fish lizard.

00:21:22.951 --> 00:21:29.576
I like it nice science couldn't understand how this could even be real part lizard, part fish yeah, they probably thought.

00:21:29.737 --> 00:21:37.558
Some people probably thought it was fake, right, I mean seriously so this lived 190 to 200 million years ago.

00:21:37.699 --> 00:21:44.935
It's a long time ago, so long ago even older than me, kate by a couple years, maybe a few.

00:21:44.935 --> 00:21:49.232
Yeah, you're right, you're right dear, so that length of time was inconceivable.

00:21:49.232 --> 00:21:51.441
I still feel like that is inconceivable.

00:21:51.441 --> 00:21:51.982
You can't.

00:21:51.982 --> 00:21:55.271
I mean, you just okay, I'm almost 45.

00:21:56.011 --> 00:21:57.914
you're gonna be 40 next year.

00:21:57.914 --> 00:22:01.979
Yeah, you think about our time on this planet.

00:22:02.539 --> 00:22:02.720
Mm-hmm.

00:22:03.661 --> 00:22:06.144
And that is exponentially multiplied.

00:22:06.144 --> 00:22:09.070
Yes, ago, ago.

00:22:09.070 --> 00:22:10.192
I mean, it's hard to like.

00:22:10.192 --> 00:22:23.615
I mean, especially when you're younger age is a really weird thing, concept even Like I thought people who, when I was you know, 10, 11, 12, who were 40, were fucking ancient.

00:22:23.615 --> 00:22:26.020
Yes, and now I'm halfway through my 40s.

00:22:26.020 --> 00:22:26.501
It's like holy.

00:22:27.151 --> 00:22:28.173
No, I'm not that ancient.

00:22:28.192 --> 00:22:43.138
I mean I tell you are, but well, and I feel like it you know, ask my knees, but um no, it's just, it's like to perceive that amount of time is like it's inconceivable to me and people thought that the earth was only 6,000 years old.

00:22:43.309 --> 00:22:44.213
Well, and some still do.

00:22:44.213 --> 00:22:47.435
We won't go into that.

00:22:47.829 --> 00:22:49.276
Do you want to know what's really weird?

00:22:49.276 --> 00:22:51.557
Some people think it's flat too.

00:22:51.557 --> 00:22:52.278
That's fair.

00:22:53.911 --> 00:23:00.913
So there is a man by the name of Sir Everard Holm, everard Everard Holm.

00:23:00.932 --> 00:23:02.798
That's a funky name, I like it.

00:23:03.049 --> 00:23:05.278
He's a renowned scientist.

00:23:05.419 --> 00:23:05.700
Okay.

00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:12.423
And he increased the fossil's fame by writing a series of papers about it for the Royal Society of London.

00:23:12.423 --> 00:23:17.500
Okay, so it is the Royal Society of London for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge.

00:23:17.500 --> 00:23:20.051
Damn right it is yes, is that?

00:23:20.211 --> 00:23:21.394
still a thing today.

00:23:22.417 --> 00:23:22.898
I don't know.

00:23:22.898 --> 00:23:29.143
I know you always ask me the questions I don't know the answers to 925.

00:23:29.143 --> 00:23:38.423
So it's one of the oldest continuously operated scientific academies in the world.

00:23:38.423 --> 00:23:39.594
I just had to keep reading.

00:23:39.594 --> 00:23:40.277
Fair enough.

00:23:40.277 --> 00:23:42.615
I wrote this like five days ago.

00:23:42.916 --> 00:23:44.781
I understand, I know, I know.

00:23:45.814 --> 00:23:46.961
I forget such things.

00:23:46.961 --> 00:23:48.756
I forget such things.

00:23:48.756 --> 00:23:57.978
So, despite any significant contribution to the fossils preparation, home of course failed to acknowledge her involvement.

00:23:57.978 --> 00:23:58.977
Of course he did.

00:23:58.977 --> 00:24:00.006
Did she's?

00:24:00.067 --> 00:24:08.997
a woman, well, and that's what I was going to say because she's some little girl, but yet these guys are going to just take basically the credit for it.

00:24:08.997 --> 00:24:10.681
Yep, that's bullshit.

00:24:10.701 --> 00:24:24.234
So, between, 1815 and 1819 annie continued to make significant discoveries, unearthing several more ichthyosaur fossils wow, so she's got a couple under her belt.

00:24:24.234 --> 00:24:34.895
Yes, yes so okay, these included near complete skeletons of various sizes, from just five feet all the way to 20 feet, basically an infant yes, all the way to 20.

00:24:35.395 --> 00:24:37.597
20 feet, yeah, jesus Christ.

00:24:38.278 --> 00:24:47.527
So in 1821, there was a man named William Coney Bear, and this person comes back again Henry de la Biche.

00:24:47.926 --> 00:24:48.166
Okay.

00:24:48.990 --> 00:24:52.741
They are both prominent scientists of the Geological Society of London.

00:24:52.741 --> 00:25:01.997
They collaborated together on a paper analyzing Anning's fossils and others that she has found, together on a paper analyzing anning's fossils and others that she has found.

00:25:01.997 --> 00:25:03.864
Sure, henry de la biche was actually a childhood friend of hers and they would.

00:25:03.864 --> 00:25:18.001
They would go hunting for fossils together nice yeah, so their research determined that ichthyosaurs were a unique type of marine reptile and identified at least three distinct species based on their tooth structures.

00:25:18.603 --> 00:25:21.690
Oh, so they literally found three different variations of eels.

00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:25.038
Yeah, so it would be like this is a bear, but is it a grizzly?

00:25:25.038 --> 00:25:25.459
Is it a?

00:25:25.479 --> 00:25:25.980
Kodiak.

00:25:25.980 --> 00:25:26.981
Is it a black bear?

00:25:26.981 --> 00:25:28.875
Yeah, I really like Kodiak bears.

00:25:28.875 --> 00:25:34.759
By the way, did you know that George Washington never knew dinosaurs existed?

00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:36.182
I believe it.

00:25:36.522 --> 00:25:37.364
Well, because of when he died.

00:25:37.529 --> 00:25:37.991
That was like.

00:25:38.815 --> 00:25:51.730
The reason why I find it wild that he never knew dinosaurs even existed is just because, like, obviously in our lifetime there's probably something that's discovered, but it's like we've always known about dinosaurs.

00:25:51.730 --> 00:26:06.471
Like to know there's a time where someone didn't know dinosaurs existed is just wild yeah because obviously science has evolved, everything's evolved, whatever, but it's like he never knew there was these giant beasts that roamed the planet at one point.

00:26:06.471 --> 00:26:07.752
Right, that's crazy.

00:26:07.973 --> 00:26:22.284
He's like I could have used them in that war anyways so along this time frame in 1818 to 1819, mary met lifeguards officer Lieutenant Colonel Thomas James Birch.

00:26:22.625 --> 00:26:23.586
Lifeguard?

00:26:23.586 --> 00:26:25.088
Yeah, what is that?

00:26:25.088 --> 00:26:25.690
I don't know.

00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:28.660
That's probably different than a lifeguard, probably Okay.

00:26:29.290 --> 00:26:39.233
He purchased many of the items for Mary in this one year Okay, including a near complete ichthyosaur.

00:26:39.253 --> 00:26:42.435
Can you try that again, so I can understand what you're saying.

00:26:43.457 --> 00:26:45.417
I'm trying to find the pronunciation.

00:26:45.738 --> 00:26:46.419
Oh, you didn't have it.

00:26:46.439 --> 00:26:47.318
Ichthyosaur.

00:26:47.318 --> 00:26:50.421
I only wrote the pronunciation down once, ichthyosaur.

00:26:50.421 --> 00:26:51.342
All right, okay.

00:26:51.342 --> 00:26:58.567
So at one point, after a very long stretch of having no sales, birch came through for the Anning family.

00:26:58.567 --> 00:27:01.758
Yay, birch, he saw how freaking poor they were.

00:27:01.999 --> 00:27:02.319
Okay.

00:27:03.211 --> 00:27:09.320
He sold off 102 fossils of his own, including the ichthyosaur.

00:27:09.642 --> 00:27:11.505
That she found, mm-hmm Wow.

00:27:12.490 --> 00:27:16.260
For 100 pounds, which equals $14,000 today.

00:27:16.260 --> 00:27:16.951
That's pretty good.

00:27:16.951 --> 00:27:24.817
In total, $50,000 was raised, 400 pounds, $50,000.

00:27:24.817 --> 00:27:28.232
Wow, he gave all of it.

00:27:28.554 --> 00:27:30.057
To that family, to the Annings.

00:27:30.057 --> 00:27:31.220
That's pretty impressive.

00:27:31.220 --> 00:27:32.182
That's very generous.

00:27:32.182 --> 00:27:34.903
Yes, I mean especially at what?

00:27:34.903 --> 00:27:35.809
1815?

00:27:35.809 --> 00:27:37.250
Or 1819?

00:27:37.549 --> 00:27:39.317
1818, 1819,.

00:27:39.336 --> 00:27:42.328
Yeah, I mean, mean, that's very generous of him to do that.

00:27:42.409 --> 00:27:49.423
So and if it made the news because he was doing it for a reason he wanted for charity, exactly.

00:27:49.423 --> 00:27:56.756
So it put the annings in a little bit more of a star power sure makes sense, because you know people are talking about them too so yeah I get that.

00:27:56.976 --> 00:27:59.082
And he knew this is a big deal.

00:27:59.082 --> 00:28:05.819
Her finding all these fossils is a big deal for science, because I mean, that's a lot of freaking fossils.

00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:14.259
Yeah, so in 1823, mary's next discovery she was around 24 years old, that's what I was going to say.

00:28:14.259 --> 00:28:17.480
She discovered the skeleton of a plesiosaur.

00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.441
Ooh, not the plesiosaur, it means near to reptile.

00:28:22.491 --> 00:28:33.213
It is a long-necked marine reptile with four flippers so I'm assuming that they found a lot of these marine ones because of where they were.

00:28:33.213 --> 00:28:34.957
They're on an island to begin with.

00:28:35.217 --> 00:28:35.498
Right.

00:28:35.657 --> 00:28:40.724
So I mean I would assume that's very prominent in that area?

00:28:40.984 --> 00:28:41.586
Yeah, so okay.

00:28:41.586 --> 00:28:47.162
So this was a huge moment for her, as it was nearly complete.

00:28:47.162 --> 00:28:52.699
It was nine feet long, jeez, and six feet wide, holy shit.

00:28:53.931 --> 00:28:55.896
It's almost as wide as it is long.

00:28:55.936 --> 00:28:58.665
That's crazy, it's almost as wide as it is long.

00:28:58.665 --> 00:28:59.689
That's crazy.

00:29:04.049 --> 00:29:07.329
The mouth was a meter long, sharp teeth and the eye, which is the largest of its kind, looked like a slice of pineapple, a slice of pineapple, mm-hmm.

00:29:07.670 --> 00:29:10.519
So it's like all those ridges, oh sure Gotcha.

00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:16.842
And that type of eye was meant to see in the deep depths of the ocean.

00:29:17.089 --> 00:29:17.756
Yeah, that makes sense.

00:29:17.756 --> 00:29:18.492
And their foreflippers maneuvered like dragonfly wings.

00:29:18.441 --> 00:29:19.105
Oh eye was meant to see in, like the deep depths of the ocean.

00:29:19.105 --> 00:29:19.417
Yeah, that makes sense.

00:29:19.417 --> 00:29:40.875
And their four flippers maneuvered like dragonfly wings, oh yeah, and they were air breathers, so they had to come up to the surface they went that deep but had to come up that's that's wild okay so, despite widespread acknowledgement of her fossil discoveries, mary anning's contributions were again overlooked, of course, with the credit going to others.

00:29:40.875 --> 00:29:49.257
The people who would purchase from her or the ones who would end up donating her fossils would get the credit the credit.

00:29:49.297 --> 00:29:50.359
Yeah, that's bullshit.

00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:55.018
Yeah, and I bet you 100% of them were men.

00:29:56.201 --> 00:29:56.422
Yes.

00:29:56.781 --> 00:29:57.083
Weird.

00:29:58.711 --> 00:30:01.461
I mean, it was all due to, like, a lack of documentation.

00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:05.019
Well, I don't think it was all due to that.

00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:05.300
Well.

00:30:05.300 --> 00:30:11.781
But I think that was the majority of it, also her social status and her gender.

00:30:12.022 --> 00:30:12.945
Well, that's my point.

00:30:12.945 --> 00:30:22.404
It's like, hey, I just bought this skeleton of this dinosaur, this new fangled dinosaur, off of this chick 24-year-old.

00:30:24.269 --> 00:30:25.021
Yeah, nobody knows who the hell she is.

00:30:25.021 --> 00:30:25.529
Yeah, she's got no status.

00:30:25.869 --> 00:30:27.557
They're going to know who the hell I am right now.

00:30:28.631 --> 00:30:38.750
Yeah, many scientists found it difficult to believe that someone with such a disadvantaged background could possess something or even know what she's talking about.

00:30:38.809 --> 00:30:43.775
Yeah, and isn't that just sad, like well, she was poor.

00:30:43.775 --> 00:30:50.134
She can't clearly know what she's talking about she also would sketch all of her findings.

00:30:50.154 --> 00:30:54.388
Oh, that's awesome yeah, so um can I ask you another question.

00:30:54.409 --> 00:30:58.332
You don't know the answer to probably do any of these sketches still exist.

00:30:59.011 --> 00:31:00.152
I believe so and continue.

00:31:00.152 --> 00:31:04.034
Actually, I believe so Really, yeah, I believe so That'd be pretty cool.

00:31:04.034 --> 00:31:21.321
So papers were written by scientists Yep, Presentations were given by scientists Yep and they also had Anning's drawings and she was never given credit to any of them.

00:31:21.682 --> 00:31:30.806
So and I'm not trying to jump the gun and I'm hoping you can just tell me I'll get there how did she get notified or not notified?

00:31:31.707 --> 00:31:32.727
Credited.

00:31:32.727 --> 00:31:34.167
Basically, I will tell you.

00:31:34.528 --> 00:31:35.788
Yes, all right.

00:31:39.789 --> 00:31:40.330
Something you can tell me.

00:31:40.330 --> 00:31:43.780
So throughout her years of fossil hunting, she would oftentimes encounter a small type of object.

00:31:44.182 --> 00:31:47.089
Object that is a tough word to say, isn't?

00:31:47.589 --> 00:31:58.500
it object can you please re-say object object all right they were twisted and rounded like kind of dark gray pebbles.

00:31:59.041 --> 00:31:59.321
Okay.

00:31:59.782 --> 00:32:03.846
They were sometimes shaped like cones, spirals and cylinders.

00:32:04.769 --> 00:32:05.070
Is that those?

00:32:05.070 --> 00:32:07.234
I don't know?

00:32:07.234 --> 00:32:08.376
Fuck, I just lost the word.

00:32:08.717 --> 00:32:09.137
Ammonites.

00:32:09.137 --> 00:32:14.534
Yeah, no, no, no that's not what I was thinking of.

00:32:14.534 --> 00:32:18.089
She would find these objects within the abdominal cavities of ichthyosaurs.

00:32:18.089 --> 00:32:22.017
She would find these objects within the abdominal cavities of ichthyosaurs and thinking they were undigested food.

00:32:22.017 --> 00:32:31.450
They contained fish, bones and scales, okay Okay, but she didn't know for sure, so she called in a favor.

00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:36.701
So she shared For being someone of poor standing had a lot of favors.

00:32:36.701 --> 00:32:38.817
People know who she is, Clearly.

00:32:40.089 --> 00:32:41.031
They just don't give her credit.

00:32:41.031 --> 00:32:42.275
Which bullshit those bitches.

00:32:42.275 --> 00:32:51.826
So she shared her observations with an english theologian and paleontologist and geologist, william buckland oh hey, william.

00:32:51.826 --> 00:32:57.558
And he eventually determined that they were actually fossilized feces Poop.

00:32:57.558 --> 00:32:59.082
So he ate shit.

00:32:59.082 --> 00:33:03.076
Excrement Crap.

00:33:03.537 --> 00:33:05.642
Dung Shit, shit.

00:33:10.050 --> 00:33:12.057
He called these fossilized Poop.

00:33:12.057 --> 00:33:18.119
Sorry, penny, I said poop, she went running, I gots to go.

00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:25.753
So he called these cup cup roll lights, cupper lights.

00:33:25.753 --> 00:33:32.523
Words are hard, I can tell um so cup roll lights, it is literally greek.

00:33:32.523 --> 00:33:34.172
From dung dung, snow stone.

00:33:34.172 --> 00:33:35.757
Jesus christ, wow dung, stone, dung stone.

00:33:35.757 --> 00:33:42.056
How, jesus Christ, wow Dung, stone, dung, stone.

00:33:42.390 --> 00:33:43.613
How did you fuck stone up?

00:33:43.613 --> 00:33:44.194
I don't know.

00:33:44.194 --> 00:33:45.116
That was impressive.

00:33:45.116 --> 00:33:46.520
Well done and continue.

00:33:46.520 --> 00:33:46.821
Thank you.

00:33:47.930 --> 00:34:01.800
Anning's discovery of coprolites contributed significantly to the understanding of the diet and behavior of ancient marine creatures, and it became one of the most important techniques available to paleontologists.

00:34:02.122 --> 00:34:02.362
All right.

00:34:03.230 --> 00:34:09.364
So in 1828, Mary found yet another impressive fossil she was 29.

00:34:09.364 --> 00:34:15.182
This one had long tail and wings.

00:34:17.014 --> 00:34:18.304
Is that different than wings Wings?

00:34:18.324 --> 00:34:20.311
Is that different than wings Wings?

00:34:20.311 --> 00:34:34.077
This was the first pterosaur oh, also known as the pterodactyl Correct, and this was the first of its kind in this area All right.

00:34:34.077 --> 00:34:37.780
So this particular pterosaur that's what they kind of called.

00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:39.043
It was pterosaur back then.

00:34:39.963 --> 00:34:47.813
Eventually it was pterodactyl, but this type of pterosaur was called the dimorphodon Dimorphodon.

00:34:47.873 --> 00:34:49.494
It means two forms of teeth.

00:34:50.036 --> 00:34:52.599
Oh, so it's got two forms of teeth.

00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:56.184
Massively long ones out front to snatch prey.

00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:00.873
And shorter, sharp ones in the back for chewing.

00:35:00.893 --> 00:35:18.172
Yeah for grinding them up basically yeah, so um it was it was less than four feet long oh, so a lot smaller than I would have thought, but it had a long tail compared to the body, sure, head claws, a large skull and it looked like a cross between a vampire bat and a reptile what kind of reptile?

00:35:18.172 --> 00:35:19.275
I don't know.

00:35:22.061 --> 00:35:22.402
Crickets.

00:35:22.402 --> 00:35:24.478
I'm going to put some cricket sounds in right here.

00:35:32.197 --> 00:35:42.601
So the dimorphodon was one of the earliest species, dating from around 200 million years ago Ah, that's it, and it had a projected wingspan of 1.4 meters or four and a half feet.

00:35:42.922 --> 00:35:43.121
Wow.

00:35:44.451 --> 00:35:45.492
As well as flying.

00:35:45.492 --> 00:35:53.621
All pterosaurs walked, but they would like fold up their flying wings fingers to like, keep their wings out of the way as they're walking.

00:35:53.989 --> 00:35:58.572
So if they folded up their flying wings, what did they do with their walking wings Shut up?

00:35:58.572 --> 00:36:03.378
I had to ask you set it up.

00:36:03.789 --> 00:36:08.679
So 200 million years ago was almost 70 million years before the first known bird.

00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:10.822
Really yes.

00:36:11.503 --> 00:36:12.204
That's crazy.

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:18.003
And Penny is playing with a piece of paracord if you can hear her nails in the background.

00:36:18.003 --> 00:36:23.197
Okay, so Anning was finally credited.

00:36:23.838 --> 00:36:29.293
Oh, for having discovered this fossil so who actually credited her for it?

00:36:29.614 --> 00:36:31.239
I don't know god damn it.

00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:32.282
Do you know anything?

00:36:32.664 --> 00:36:36.172
well, you got to tell me what your questions are before I have to answer.

00:36:36.172 --> 00:36:53.376
But you're teaching me something, so I don't know what we're talking about I don't know I can tell in 1829 she found another, more perfect plesiosaur oh really, and this one went to the british museum is it still there?

00:36:53.376 --> 00:36:56.021
For 105 pounds.

00:36:56.802 --> 00:36:59.365
Six pounds, no Seven pounds.

00:36:59.690 --> 00:37:01.797
That is equal to $19,000 today.

00:37:01.876 --> 00:37:02.699
That's pretty good.

00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:07.161
I mean, that had to keep the family afloat for a little bit, mm-hmm.

00:37:08.670 --> 00:37:11.960
So also in 1829.

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.798
Okay, after several days of rain, 30 years old.

00:37:16.170 --> 00:37:24.773
She uncovered a new species of ray like a stingray really yeah, yeah, because I've been around for a long time, correct?

00:37:25.074 --> 00:37:28.521
it's called the squaloraja squaloraja.

00:37:28.521 --> 00:37:42.384
It's like the maharaja maharaja yeah it lived approximately 150 million years ago, during the Jurassic era, and it is literally an ancestor to the shark and the ray.

00:37:42.384 --> 00:37:45.106
Really yes To both, yes.

00:37:46.268 --> 00:37:48.976
Really yes, but I thought sharks were around back then too.

00:37:49.809 --> 00:37:51.498
But they looked different.

00:37:52.429 --> 00:37:54.255
Why are you talking like a belly girl?

00:37:54.454 --> 00:37:55.398
Put that in one.

00:37:55.398 --> 00:37:56.039
No, you're not.

00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:59.536
You're from Nebraska, jesus Christ.

00:37:59.536 --> 00:38:03.157
They have valleys there, between the corn.

00:38:03.157 --> 00:38:09.969
That's not a valley, that doesn't count, that's just because the fucking combine.

00:38:11.155 --> 00:38:12.077
They call that a ditch.

00:38:12.755 --> 00:38:20.644
Exactly, and just because the combine came through the middle of the field that doesn't constitute a valley or whatever.

00:38:22.288 --> 00:38:27.057
Okay, so this Squaloraja was a foot and a half, that's pretty short.

00:38:27.057 --> 00:38:32.375
It had two immense sockets for the eyes, probably to see deep Two.

00:38:32.414 --> 00:38:32.655
what?

00:38:33.737 --> 00:38:34.239
Sockets.

00:38:34.505 --> 00:38:35.751
You said something before that Immense.

00:38:35.751 --> 00:38:38.873
Oh, okay, because that word wasn't clear to me.

00:38:39.465 --> 00:38:40.550
It had a long snout.

00:38:41.092 --> 00:38:41.373
Snoot.

00:38:42.266 --> 00:38:45.094
It had a flat long head.

00:38:45.094 --> 00:38:46.909
It was almost like a flat diamond.

00:38:46.909 --> 00:38:48.956
Oh really, mm-hmm Crazy.

00:38:48.956 --> 00:38:50.869
It had very tiny vertebrae.

00:38:51.371 --> 00:38:51.692
Okay.

00:38:51.972 --> 00:38:52.675
Had claws.

00:38:52.675 --> 00:38:53.496
What the?

00:38:53.496 --> 00:38:56.626
And fins like wings, like a stingray.

00:38:57.967 --> 00:39:01.951
And it's the whole birthing, the stingray thing, mm-hmm, all right.

00:39:02.552 --> 00:39:07.235
So I read a book called the Fossil Hunter by Shelley Emling.

00:39:07.235 --> 00:39:17.121
Okay, and she quotes was another extraordinary transitional creature, this time between sharks and rays.

00:39:20.744 --> 00:39:27.798
As such, it provided yet another piece of proof for the chain of being so and I'm sure you don't have the answer, and that's perfectly fine.

00:39:27.798 --> 00:39:29.588
How?

00:39:29.588 --> 00:39:34.036
Because, like obviously, sharks and stingrays are vastly different.

00:39:34.036 --> 00:39:38.512
How is it, like so, associated with both?

00:39:38.512 --> 00:39:48.775
Only the strong survive that's the worst fucking answer you could have given and go, jesus christ so again down on her luck.

00:39:49.838 --> 00:39:51.625
And how is she constantly down on?

00:39:51.644 --> 00:39:52.045
her luck?

00:39:52.045 --> 00:39:54.614
Does she just piss this fucking money away?

00:39:54.614 --> 00:39:57.922
Jesus christ mary these.

00:39:57.963 --> 00:40:08.610
This is like years and years difference, like she'll get the money and that's probably all she gets for a really long time and she's got to use that go get a real job um.

00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:20.059
So, not having found any fossils to sell, the market was drying up as well because of the war of 1812, limiting exports, the reign of king King James IV and his fanatical spending.

00:40:20.385 --> 00:40:27.335
So all of that like between 1812 and then like All of it just compounded to be really bad for them, basically.

00:40:27.764 --> 00:40:32.157
So her childhood friend, Henry de la Biche, comes back.

00:40:32.385 --> 00:40:33.871
Is it de la Bette or de la Biche?

00:40:33.871 --> 00:40:35.768
Biche B-E-C-H-E.

00:40:35.768 --> 00:40:36.893
I mean, I got that.

00:40:36.945 --> 00:40:39.804
You said de la Betteette, it's because I misspoke Jesus.

00:40:40.873 --> 00:40:42.364
Jesus Christ he.

00:40:43.568 --> 00:40:45.574
He came to a rescue with a gift.

00:40:46.096 --> 00:40:48.371
Oh, like a gift of marriage.

00:40:48.773 --> 00:40:48.952
No.

00:40:49.454 --> 00:40:50.197
A proposal.

00:40:50.224 --> 00:40:58.153
Although there was a rumor that she was in love with him and he didn't reciprocate, but I don't know if she ever said anything to him.

00:40:58.945 --> 00:41:00.347
Oh, so it was one of those.

00:41:01.009 --> 00:41:12.869
I like you yeah, okay, so he painted the duria antiqua, antique or and antique we are.

00:41:13.170 --> 00:41:17.516
That's probably better I believe, I believe in you duria antiquior.

00:41:17.936 --> 00:41:21.663
Okay, it means a more ancient dorset.

00:41:21.663 --> 00:41:27.041
It was painted in 1830 and I'll show you a picture of it here in a second so he painted this.

00:41:27.041 --> 00:41:45.440
He painted this so he sold prints and lithographs of this painting, which details, in full color and grandeur, the three types of ichthyosaurs plesiosaur and dimorphodon.

00:41:45.860 --> 00:41:47.001
Dimorphodon.

00:41:47.264 --> 00:41:48.789
All of Mary's findings.

00:41:48.829 --> 00:41:50.375
That's pretty cool he put in this painting.

00:41:50.394 --> 00:41:57.045
Okay, it is considered the very first pictorial representation of prehistoric life based on fossil evidence.

00:41:57.045 --> 00:41:58.572
That's pretty cool actually, mm-hmm.

00:41:58.885 --> 00:42:00.670
I would assume this painting still exists.

00:42:01.050 --> 00:42:04.077
Yes, don't know where it is where is it.

00:42:04.077 --> 00:42:05.108
I don't know where it is.

00:42:05.108 --> 00:42:13.909
So again described from the book the fossil hunter by shelly emling the focal quote, the focal point of the drawing.

00:42:14.271 --> 00:42:30.432
A large, toothy ichthyosaur was shown biting on the slender neck of a plesiosaur while another plesiosaur was lunging from the shallow water in a sneak attack on a crocodile basking on the shore.

00:42:30.432 --> 00:42:32.271
What I know, there's a crocodile in here.

00:42:32.271 --> 00:42:48.119
In the distance there was an elongated neck of a plesiosaur hurling itself into the air trying to take a nip out of a low-flying pterosaur also known as a pterodactyl end quote not my part.

00:42:50.751 --> 00:42:53.317
So basically, the, the painting was.

00:42:53.317 --> 00:42:57.713
I mean, obviously it's not a representation of something they found it was uh, yeah, so you have to zoom in on that.

00:42:57.713 --> 00:42:57.971
Yeah, I'll look at it later.

00:42:57.971 --> 00:42:58.159
I can't see that far.

00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.277
I mean, obviously it's not a representation of something they found it was yeah, so you have to zoom in on that.

00:43:00.557 --> 00:43:00.797
Yeah.

00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:01.760
I'll look at it later.

00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.168
I can't see that far.

00:43:03.389 --> 00:43:03.690
Okay.

00:43:03.891 --> 00:43:15.619
I have classes, I'm old, so, basically, his painting, though, is just let's be a little fantastical, because I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but he had no idea if that was accurate.

00:43:15.844 --> 00:43:19.846
Yeah, exactly, and he did all this just to get her out of a financial slump.

00:43:19.846 --> 00:43:37.291
She got a lot of friends, apparently especially this dude who she was in love with yeah, so between 1830 and 18, potentially 1830 and 1847, mary anning continued her fossil hunting and research 1830 to 1847 okay, um.

00:43:37.291 --> 00:43:43.099
So despite increasing competition from other fossil hunters, she remained a respected figure in the field.

00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:43.860
That's crazy.

00:43:44.085 --> 00:43:49.025
Her discoveries continued to contribute to the understanding of prehistoric life, Wow.

00:43:49.025 --> 00:43:55.659
So during this period, Anning also faced health challenges to his arduous work and exposure to the elements.

00:43:55.659 --> 00:44:00.757
Despite these difficulties, she remained dedicated to her passion for fossils.

00:44:00.757 --> 00:44:06.394
On March 9th 1847, Mary died from breast cancer.

00:44:06.755 --> 00:44:07.478
Oh, that's too bad.

00:44:07.706 --> 00:44:16.869
She was only 47 years old and still in financial strain, despite a lifetime of extraordinary scientific discoveries and help from friends.

00:44:17.150 --> 00:44:17.753
That's crazy.

00:44:18.025 --> 00:44:28.132
She became the first woman memorialized by the geological society of london, although as a woman she had not been allowed to join that's just ridiculous.

00:44:28.574 --> 00:44:32.646
I get it because of the timing, but yeah you think on it now it's like what the hell?

00:44:33.327 --> 00:44:51.583
look at what she found and you're like, nah, you can't because you're a woman cool today, the natural history museum in london showcases several of mary anning's spectacular finds, including her ithyosaur, plesiosaur and pterosaur that's pretty cool much like they did two centuries ago.

00:44:51.583 --> 00:44:57.688
Her fossils continued to captivate visitors from around the world well, I mean that's especially with how intact they are.

00:44:58.250 --> 00:44:59.534
That I mean that's impressive.

00:44:59.534 --> 00:45:00.706
I'd like to go see them.

00:45:00.987 --> 00:45:02.150
Yeah, me too, I've never been to London.

00:45:02.831 --> 00:45:03.653
You said it's in London.

00:45:03.653 --> 00:45:04.275
Is that right?

00:45:04.275 --> 00:45:08.400
I would love to go, just honestly just go see her damn frickin' fossils.

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:09.025
That's pretty cool.

00:45:09.244 --> 00:45:10.987
Her house is also a museum now.

00:45:11.166 --> 00:45:11.788
Oh, is it really so she?

00:45:11.807 --> 00:45:13.248
has.

00:45:13.248 --> 00:45:16.092
She has had several things named after her.

00:45:16.092 --> 00:45:21.097
Okay, so the Anning House, which is a museum in Lime Regis dedicated to her life and work.

00:45:21.237 --> 00:45:21.677
Makes sense.

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:22.900
Anning Street.

00:45:22.900 --> 00:45:24.641
Ooh, a street in Lime Regis.

00:45:24.641 --> 00:45:28.170
Thank God, anningia.

00:45:28.831 --> 00:45:29.273
The what, what?

00:45:29.594 --> 00:45:30.335
Anningia.

00:45:30.795 --> 00:45:31.838
I don't know what that is, but okay.

00:45:35.485 --> 00:45:36.545
It is a genus of extinct marine reptiles.

00:45:36.585 --> 00:45:37.067
It was named after her.

00:45:37.086 --> 00:45:47.777
Oh, there you go, and Anning Point, which is a geological feature on the Jurassic Coast, which is a 95-mile stretch of coastline, where Lime Ridge just sits.

00:45:47.998 --> 00:45:52.161
Yeah, so basically they named where she found her fossils after her.

00:45:52.764 --> 00:45:58.534
Okay, and this place was also declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 2001.

00:45:59.175 --> 00:46:00.097
What's UNESCO?

00:46:00.818 --> 00:46:02.059
I don't know oh.

00:46:02.059 --> 00:46:06.476
Supposedly she was also named after a comet.

00:46:07.405 --> 00:46:08.391
So Mary's Comet.

00:46:08.684 --> 00:46:12.596
Because she's a star, what I don't know.

00:46:12.596 --> 00:46:14.510
She's named after a comet.

00:46:14.510 --> 00:46:16.172
She's named after her mother.

00:46:16.172 --> 00:46:18.092
A comet is named after her.

00:46:19.985 --> 00:46:22.010
So it's kind of like Haley's C mary's comment, same thing.

00:46:22.010 --> 00:46:23.974
Or is it molly's comment?

00:46:23.974 --> 00:46:33.364
No, that's her mom I don't know but also was her mom too but, that's weird that is the story of mary anning and her fossil discovery.

00:46:33.445 --> 00:46:59.012
Well, that's kind of cool, because you don't I, I didn't know ever hear about her, probably because, well, I'm not english, I'm american, but uh, that's pretty awesome that she found that many uh fossils like, especially on the coast, like that, with a little help from the mother nature, obviously so I actually have an ammonite here yes, that's, that's what I was trying to.

00:46:59.012 --> 00:47:01.637
I couldn't obviously not articulate that.

00:47:01.925 --> 00:47:04.072
This is an ammonite, so it is.

00:47:05.027 --> 00:47:05.590
Piece of poop.

00:47:06.572 --> 00:47:15.217
No, it is extinct marine creatures that lived during the Paleozoic and Mesozoic eras.

00:47:15.277 --> 00:47:16.239
And that's what they ate, right.

00:47:17.206 --> 00:47:19.777
They were closely related to modern day octopuses and squids.

00:47:19.777 --> 00:47:20.199
Oct right Mm-hmm.

00:47:20.219 --> 00:47:21.744
They were closely related to modern-day octopuses and squids, octopi, mm-hmm.

00:47:21.744 --> 00:47:21.844
Cool.

00:47:21.965 --> 00:47:25.715
So they had coiled shells that were often symmetrical and intricate.

00:47:25.715 --> 00:47:38.117
The shells were made of calcium carbonate, similar to shells of snails and clams Nice, and the size of ammonite shells varied greatly, ranging from a few centimeters to over a meter in diameter.

00:47:39.344 --> 00:47:56.965
So this one is probably a inch and a half yeah, not a huge one, but it's still pretty good size yeah, so the internal structure of ammonite shells was divided into chambers which were connected by a tube, and the tube allowed ammonites to regulate their buoyancy and maintain their position in in the water column.

00:47:56.965 --> 00:47:59.893
So it's almost like your eustachian tube it closes off.

00:48:00.195 --> 00:48:02.731
Sure, so they can raise and lower that kind of thing.

00:48:02.731 --> 00:48:03.876
Yeah, that makes sense, nice.

00:48:04.405 --> 00:48:07.123
Ammonites were important predators in the marine environment.

00:48:07.123 --> 00:48:14.074
Oh, they used their tentacles to capture prey, which they then consumed using their beak-like jaws.

00:48:14.074 --> 00:48:27.925
Ammonites were also prey for other marine creatures, such as sharks and plesiosaurs, and the fossil record of ammonites is extensive, making them valuable tools for geologists in dating rock formations.

00:48:27.925 --> 00:48:36.782
The different species of ammonites lived at different times, so their presence in a rock layer can provide clues about the age of the rock.

00:48:36.782 --> 00:48:38.206
Okay, so this is my ammonite.

00:48:38.206 --> 00:48:39.065
How long have you had that, I don't know.

00:48:39.045 --> 00:48:39.867
Can provide clues about the age of the rock.

00:48:39.846 --> 00:48:40.204
Okay, so this is my ammonite.

00:48:40.204 --> 00:48:40.525
How long have you had that?

00:48:42.286 --> 00:48:43.648
I don't know.

00:48:43.648 --> 00:48:43.949
Oh, my God.

00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:45.030
A couple years.

00:48:45.030 --> 00:48:49.516
I don't remember who gave it to me, if I bought it myself, I have no idea.

00:48:49.516 --> 00:48:50.217
I don't remember.

00:48:50.217 --> 00:48:54.646
That's all right, you don't remember a lot, I don't remember a lot.

00:48:54.646 --> 00:48:58.898
But I do have an ammonite and I have seen the Ammonite movie with Kate Winslet and Saoirse Ronan.

00:48:59.119 --> 00:48:59.961
Saoirse Ronan yeah.

00:49:00.065 --> 00:49:03.074
And, like I said, super, super loosely based.

00:49:03.806 --> 00:49:07.597
Well, so does Saoirse play Mary Anning then.

00:49:07.965 --> 00:49:09.170
No, Kate Winslet does.

00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:13.195
Oh, so she's older and they made her look like a really old spinster.

00:49:13.925 --> 00:49:16.994
Well, you know, that's kind of shitty.

00:49:17.985 --> 00:49:25.119
And so Saoirse was apparently like a high society woman who was going through about a depression.

00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:31.536
So she just wanted to buy some fossils and like Well, her husband dropped her off at Mary Ann's and said here, take care of her for me.

00:49:31.536 --> 00:49:35.996
Essentially like go off and do some activities together.

00:49:37.144 --> 00:49:39.873
So did they have a lot of room for activities.

00:49:40.735 --> 00:49:41.096
Well.

00:49:41.885 --> 00:49:43.311
I mean, the coast is only so big.

00:49:43.625 --> 00:49:47.994
I know, but they actually did partaking activities in the movie oh yeah together.

00:49:48.657 --> 00:49:49.097
Oh dear.

00:49:49.565 --> 00:49:51.090
Which is why it's very sleepy.

00:49:51.413 --> 00:49:52.195
Scandalous.

00:49:52.244 --> 00:49:55.436
Because there's no mention of that in historical documents.

00:49:55.905 --> 00:49:57.471
And obviously there probably wouldn't be.

00:49:57.490 --> 00:49:57.652
Yeah.

00:49:58.425 --> 00:49:59.909
Especially from that time frame.

00:49:59.929 --> 00:50:00.210
Yeah.

00:50:00.510 --> 00:50:00.992
Makes sense.

00:50:00.992 --> 00:50:02.757
So no, that's interesting.

00:50:02.757 --> 00:50:05.755
I never knew about Mary Anning.

00:50:05.755 --> 00:50:08.610
That's kind of cool that she found all those.

00:50:08.610 --> 00:50:11.367
That, honestly, really is Obviously, I mean especially.

00:50:11.367 --> 00:50:18.175
I'm not saying little girls aren't, but it always seems like little boys are big fans of dinosaurs.

00:50:20.364 --> 00:50:21.266
I know my son was a huge fan of dinosaurs.

00:50:21.286 --> 00:50:27.010
I think he's already kind of evolved a little bit from that, but I remember being huge into dinosaurs too when I was a little too.

00:50:27.010 --> 00:50:36.809
So it's kind of cool, especially seeing like those different kind of marine ones instead of just, I mean obviously as t-rex is right badass and brontosaurus, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

00:50:36.809 --> 00:50:45.554
But those marine ones are pretty sweet too, which again makes sense that they found them on the coast of of england.

00:50:45.554 --> 00:50:47.237
Because of what it?

00:50:47.358 --> 00:50:50.028
is basically so, but yeah, no, that's.

00:50:50.028 --> 00:50:50.990
That's pretty interesting.

00:50:50.990 --> 00:50:53.096
I had no idea about her, so that's cool.

00:50:53.096 --> 00:50:54.626
Yeah, so how's your drink?

00:50:55.286 --> 00:51:00.277
it's delicious yeah and I want another, even though I'm not even finished with this one.

00:51:02.126 --> 00:51:04.914
I am so keeping that in there, Holy crap.

00:51:04.914 --> 00:51:11.346
Well, I'm glad you enjoy it Again.

00:51:11.346 --> 00:51:13.612
I know it's not very involved.

00:51:13.994 --> 00:51:15.016
No, it's fantastic.

00:51:16.706 --> 00:51:22.813
Yeah, I was excited to have you try it, because Strawberry, mint, lime, gin and tonic.

00:51:22.853 --> 00:51:23.195
Who knew?

00:51:23.195 --> 00:51:27.331
Yeah, it's delicious and I'm excited to keep drinking it while you tell me about it.

00:51:28.327 --> 00:51:34.375
Well, the nice thing, the nice thing I'm just trying to copy Kate and her mannerisms there.

00:51:34.375 --> 00:51:36.090
It's super simple.

00:51:36.090 --> 00:51:38.974
It's literally just making a puree, putting it in a gin and tonic.

00:51:38.974 --> 00:51:41.293
It's super, super simple garnish with.

00:51:41.293 --> 00:51:44.485
You know, I just put the strawberry on there for presentation.

00:51:44.485 --> 00:51:48.675
It was beautiful, it looked pretty good it turned it looked better than I thought.

00:51:48.675 --> 00:51:51.610
Um, we'll have to take a picture of one.

00:51:52.112 --> 00:52:00.737
We'll make another round after we're done oh shucks uh, but because the first one was just the layered, if you will how I made it.

00:52:00.737 --> 00:52:08.391
We'll mix it up, okay, yeah and with the garnish, just so you can see the difference, because definitely better once it's mixed together.

00:52:08.391 --> 00:52:14.688
Yeah, um, I wasn't sure how much the puree would be drawn up.

00:52:14.748 --> 00:52:20.766
If you will right it just sunk to the bottom, but well, I mean only because I started with that.

00:52:20.766 --> 00:52:25.835
Yeah, and I and I stirred it and it's been emulsified together.

00:52:25.856 --> 00:52:28.688
It hasn't like separated at all yeah, which is, which is awesome.

00:52:28.688 --> 00:52:29.670
Yeah, so, all right.

00:52:29.670 --> 00:52:40.918
So the idiom I have for you today um, when you pay for something and it costs an arm and a leg, why is that, kate I?

00:52:40.918 --> 00:52:59.554
Don't know okay, so there's a couple different things that I've found on this and again, any of these idioms I do it's funny, I'm like oh, I thought I found like the actual reason for it or the origin of it yeah, and then like something else randomly, I'll come across the same one and it's like, oh wait, well, is that right?

00:52:59.713 --> 00:53:00.755
Or is the one I said right?

00:53:00.755 --> 00:53:01.396
I don't know.

00:53:01.597 --> 00:53:01.818
Yeah.

00:53:02.278 --> 00:53:02.518
So.

00:53:02.518 --> 00:53:05.735
So there's a couple of different things I did find on it.

00:53:05.735 --> 00:53:11.974
One has to do with medical bills, which clearly I'm going to like you know kind of thing.

00:53:11.974 --> 00:53:19.798
But it said, uh, it may have come from the idea of paying a high price for medical bills after losing an arm and a leg in an accident.

00:53:22.351 --> 00:53:23.213
I mean, okay, let's see it.

00:53:25.427 --> 00:53:27.855
The next one was portrait painting.

00:53:27.855 --> 00:53:30.313
This one I actually found pretty interesting.

00:53:30.313 --> 00:53:50.746
The idiom may be related to 18th and 19th century portrait painting, where full-bodied portraits cost more than head and shoulder portraits what yeah, so basically the more of your body that was in the portrait that they had to paint cost more so if it's like a bust, basically, which is like what your shoulders and up yeah correct.

00:53:50.746 --> 00:53:54.675
Yeah, it was cheaper oh my gosh I thought that one was interesting.

00:53:55.016 --> 00:53:58.048
Again, not sure if it's accurate, but I thought that was pretty funny.

00:53:58.048 --> 00:54:11.505
Um, there's one that says it might be criminal slang, where it may have come from 19th century american criminal slang phrase if it takes a leg, which meant to express desperate determination.

00:54:11.505 --> 00:54:15.010
I feel like that's a little more of a stretch, but I could be wrong.

00:54:15.010 --> 00:54:33.273
Okay, um, but basically, other things I found is that, uh, it originated from america after world war ii, where a lot of servicemen lost arms and legs due to the war and it was a pretty much high price to pay right because of that.

00:54:34.275 --> 00:54:35.699
The war cost an arm and a leg.

00:54:36.025 --> 00:54:38.800
Correct, literally, because right they that makes sense to me, like that makes more sense than the the war cost an arm and a leg.

00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:39.864
Correct Literally, because they lost an arm and a leg.

00:54:40.605 --> 00:54:45.451
That makes more sense than the criminal one, for sure that I said I kind of like the painting one.

00:54:45.451 --> 00:54:47.112
I'm not sure if that's accurate.

00:54:47.353 --> 00:54:48.079
That's pretty cool too.

00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:49.331
I thought that was pretty funny.

00:54:49.331 --> 00:54:50.550
So basically no one knows.

00:54:51.545 --> 00:54:55.268
Well, and that's what a lot of these idioms like, because I don't know.

00:54:55.268 --> 00:54:58.612
I find them fascinating because where did the origin of this come from?

00:54:58.693 --> 00:54:58.972
Yeah.

00:54:59.554 --> 00:55:07.141
And there's so many variations that I've found who knows if what I said is even fucking right at all Right.

00:55:08.286 --> 00:55:09.153
All of them could have been right.

00:55:09.153 --> 00:55:09.900
None of them could have been right.

00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:10.585
One of them could have been right.

00:55:10.585 --> 00:55:22.835
I don't know, but I find it funny, especially with our language, the English language, being so diverse within itself because it pulls from a lot of different other languages too.

00:55:22.835 --> 00:55:28.416
You don't really know, or at least I sure as fuck don't know.

00:55:28.416 --> 00:55:32.653
I'm trying to find out, but I still don't know.

00:55:32.653 --> 00:55:33.737
So I don't know.

00:55:33.737 --> 00:55:38.414
I think they're kind of neat, though I like the idioms because we use.

00:55:38.414 --> 00:55:48.858
So I saw, looking this up and I think I got the number right there is over 25,000 different idioms that we use in our language.

00:55:48.858 --> 00:55:51.251
25,000?

00:55:51.251 --> 00:55:51.411
What?

00:55:51.411 --> 00:55:53.268
That is a lot of idioms.

00:55:53.268 --> 00:55:55.675
What Say what?

00:55:55.675 --> 00:56:10.536
So I mean whether that number is accurate or not, that would be staggering, because you think of some of the just random shit you say you might not even think of right, it just becomes natural because you've said it for most of your life or whatever yeah.

00:56:10.576 --> 00:56:16.286
So I read or I listen to a lot of podcasts and when I hear an idiom I'm like, oh, I'm gonna take this one to bradley.

00:56:16.447 --> 00:56:19.114
Yeah yeah, pretty much and and that's great.

00:56:19.114 --> 00:56:22.393
But like you know the different ones, you know it costs an arm and a leg.

00:56:22.393 --> 00:56:32.554
It's raining cats and dogs yeah when you say, oh my god, I want to buy that tv, but it costs an arm and a leg you know, exactly what like if you said that to me.

00:56:32.554 --> 00:56:33.960
I know, I know exactly what you're saying.

00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:45.378
Oh, that's expensive yeah because obviously giving up an arm and a leg is a high price to pay right is ultimately what it's what it is, whether the origin is one of those that I just read or not.

00:56:45.965 --> 00:56:49.291
Maybe not maybe, but anyways it's uh.

00:56:49.291 --> 00:56:59.097
Yeah, it's pretty wild all the different uh idioms that we use on a day-to-day basis, and yeah I'm sure there's plenty that I don't realize I use that.

00:56:59.097 --> 00:57:02.170
It's like, oh yeah, and I'm sure a lot of people same thing.

00:57:02.170 --> 00:57:03.074
They just don't realize.

00:57:03.264 --> 00:57:12.170
Yeah, if you have a favorite idiom that you like to use, or an idiom that is not super common, we would love to hear it.

00:57:12.244 --> 00:57:23.751
Yeah, please send us an email through our website historybuffoonspodcastcom there's an email section on there or even on this episode there's a link to send us a text.

00:57:23.751 --> 00:57:26.273
Say I want to hear about this ADM because.

00:57:26.273 --> 00:57:35.300
I'd love to look into it more, some random ones that I might not know, or obviously some common ones too, that people like to say or use, or whatever.

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:36.501
That would be great.

00:57:36.822 --> 00:57:43.411
Yeah, and I really appreciate some of the recommendations that are coming in as well.

00:57:43.411 --> 00:57:47.773
Yeah, you've gotten a couple right yeah, so I will be doing some of those in the future and we'll.

00:57:47.793 --> 00:57:54.293
We'll give a shout out to the, the person who suggested such uh story, and uh, yeah, go from there.

00:57:54.293 --> 00:57:56.898
But yeah, we appreciate anyone who's listened to us so far.

00:57:56.898 --> 00:58:18.864
I have to say, al, it's more than you and I'm kind of not sad to say that thanks for being our first fan Al yeah, and thanks to everybody else who have downloaded and followed and yeah, I mean again, we're just, we do this for fun, but we're glad that some, a few people have listened to us is all I'm saying.

00:58:19.125 --> 00:58:25.097
So, thank you for everyone who has and we hope you've enjoyed the nonsense that we've put out.

00:58:26.226 --> 00:58:27.632
I mean, you were pretty nonsensical.

00:58:27.965 --> 00:58:29.431
Well, and no one can understand you.

00:58:29.471 --> 00:58:31.588
so that's because I flip upwards.

00:58:32.389 --> 00:58:33.731
You flip upwards Flub.

00:58:33.731 --> 00:58:47.677
Case in point yeah, I'm like good lord, I mean, I'm glad you were on point for that one, but anyways, well, I suppose.

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