History Buffoons Podcast, We Are Buffoons! Now on YouTube!
Dec. 10, 2024

Plan B: Traudl Junge

Plan B: Traudl Junge
RSS Feed podcast player badge
RSS Feed podcast player icon
Season 1

Reflecting on poignant personal stories, we find solace and laughter in the memories of my late father. Amidst the grief, Kate and I share a touching scotch toast using one of his cherished bottles, inviting you to join us as we honor his memory. Our heartfelt conversation takes on a lighter note as we share hilarious tales of parenting mishaps, like the infamous "poopy mashed potato diaper" incident. Reminiscing about my childhood antics, like breaking my wrist while washing my dad's car, brings a sense of warmth and camaraderie that has helped us navigate through these emotional times.

Our chat takes a twist as we explore unexpected turns in life, complete with a casual beer tasting from Founders and Lakefront Brewery. Drawing parallels from my youth to the Offspring's drummer sporting a cast, we savor these new brews alongside stories of life plans gone awry and the humor found in our backup plans. These tales are infused with the spirit of friendship, laughter, and shared experiences, including a personal reflection on moving past my first marriage. Together, we relish the unpredictability of life and the joy of good company and good drinks.

Finally, we voyage through history, sharing the extraordinary story of Traudl Junge, born Gertrude Humps, and her unexpected path to becoming one of Hitler's secretaries. From aspiring ballerina to navigating the complexities of Nazi Germany, her journey is a stark reminder of how external influences can shape our lives. As we navigate Traudl's story and the haunting realities of Hitler's inner circle, we ponder on the weight of guilt and reflection faced by those who lived through those dark times. This exploration invites listeners to reflect on the unpredictability of history and the far-reaching consequences of our choices.


Hitler's Last Secretary by Traudl Junge
https://amzn.to/3CRgEhl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traudl_Junge

https://allthatsinteresting.com/traudl-junge

By Jessica O’Connor




Send us a text

Support the show













This website contains affiliate links. This means that if you click on a link and purchase a product, I may receive a small commission at no extra cost to you. This helps support the running of this website and allows me to continue providing valuable content. Please note that I only recommend products and services that I believe in and have personally used or researched.

Chapters

00:10 - Remembering Dad With Scotch and Stories

03:50 - Brews and Backup Plans

08:04 - Unplanned Career Paths and Nazi Influence

19:18 - Hitler Encounter in East Prussia

24:24 - Hitler's Inner Circle and Bunker Life

34:22 - Hitler's Last Will and Testament

42:33 - The Guilt of Hitler's Secretary

Transcript
WEBVTT

00:00:10.973 --> 00:00:12.374
Oh, hey there, oh hey there.

00:00:12.374 --> 00:00:14.016
Whoa, how are you?

00:00:15.301 --> 00:00:16.405
Um, okay.

00:00:16.846 --> 00:00:17.167
Yeah.

00:00:17.489 --> 00:00:20.606
Yeah, that's weird, you asked me first.

00:00:20.981 --> 00:00:22.579
I know I squeeze that in real fast.

00:00:22.660 --> 00:00:24.626
I only think because you probably know what happened.

00:00:24.626 --> 00:00:25.952
So me first, I know I squeeze that in real fast.

00:00:25.952 --> 00:00:29.094
I only think because you probably know what happened.

00:00:29.094 --> 00:00:32.695
So, uh, yeah, it's a sad buffoons podcast for me.

00:00:32.695 --> 00:00:47.158
My father just passed away, Um, and yeah, it's been a little, a little tough on that aspect, but uh, we wanted to still record and take my mind off of things.

00:00:47.158 --> 00:00:49.743
So yeah uh, I appreciate that.

00:00:49.743 --> 00:00:52.387
Thank you, kate, and uh, yeah, how are you?

00:00:53.308 --> 00:01:04.481
I'm good, good I I got to babysit his kids yep, thank you for that yeah, and well, they did a family thing and they were so sweet to me they were.

00:01:04.501 --> 00:01:05.224
they were good for me.

00:01:05.224 --> 00:01:05.846
Yeah, they're.

00:01:05.846 --> 00:01:08.501
They're pretty good, except for the giant giant.

00:01:08.543 --> 00:01:10.027
Poopy mashed potato diaper.

00:01:10.608 --> 00:01:11.129
Oh did she.

00:01:11.551 --> 00:01:14.808
Oh yeah, I got my finger stuck in it and everything Gross.

00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:18.984
That's what you missed.

00:01:18.984 --> 00:01:21.126
We we appreciate you doing that.

00:01:21.126 --> 00:01:29.993
That was very kind of you, um, so we could go up and see my mom and my brothers and yeah, it's been a little weird, but you know we'll make it through.

00:01:29.993 --> 00:01:33.561
I've got some good people in my life to help me do that.

00:01:33.561 --> 00:01:37.147
Missed my dad, of course, but Kate almost dropped her laptop.

00:01:37.347 --> 00:01:38.489
Wow.

00:01:38.650 --> 00:01:45.805
That was pretty great, and the time I decided not to start recording episodes, I could have got that gem on video.

00:01:45.805 --> 00:01:48.525
But either way, yeah, so I will.

00:01:48.525 --> 00:01:51.248
I will try and not bring the podcast down.

00:01:51.448 --> 00:01:59.305
Well, and later we're going to have a scotch and and kind of do a little salute to to his dad.

00:01:59.527 --> 00:02:02.069
My, my dad, enjoyed his scotch.

00:02:02.069 --> 00:02:08.862
He had a very basic one that he he was very frugal and he had a very basic one that he enjoyed to have.

00:02:08.862 --> 00:02:25.316
And uh, well, because he bought it in bulk, he had multiple bottles left, so I took one home, yeah, and uh, we're gonna, we're gonna have a scotch one of my dad's scotches later to uh pay a little tribute to my dad.

00:02:25.376 --> 00:02:41.801
And and uh, yeah, I just enjoy that and reminisce about, I'll probably tell kate some stories yeah about my dad, like when he told me to wash his car with my buddy and we were messing around because we were in high school or whatever it was.

00:02:41.801 --> 00:02:48.008
And no, we were in eighth grade and uh, yeah, I ended up breaking my wrist you did I did.

00:02:48.008 --> 00:02:54.967
My buddy broke my wrist wasn't intentional, we were just goofing around and how do you break a wrist wash washing a car?

00:02:54.987 --> 00:03:08.526
you you've got like sponges and a hose, should I just tell you a little story time here yeah okay, so where the house I grew up at had a turnabout, like kind of thing, um in the driveway before he got up to the main part of the garage.

00:03:08.526 --> 00:03:12.387
So he we parked the car there and to haul the hose out and whatever.

00:03:12.426 --> 00:03:22.866
And we're sitting there watching this, his old green Acura that he used to have, um, and so, of course, my buddy and I started goofing around and fake fighting or whatever.

00:03:22.866 --> 00:03:37.146
So we're like on the front lawn and uh, wrestling or whatever, and he knocked me down and decided to body slam me, ouch, and so I put my hands up to stop it, but my elbows were on the ground.

00:03:38.020 --> 00:03:39.907
So it had no had no give.

00:03:39.907 --> 00:03:40.469
Yeah.

00:03:40.881 --> 00:03:49.467
And so when he landed on my right wrist, it and just kind of yeah it on my right wrist it just kind of popped out it wasn't like a big break or anything.

00:03:49.467 --> 00:03:50.503
It was a little fracture.

00:03:50.564 --> 00:03:53.985
I guess One of your carpals.

00:03:54.447 --> 00:03:55.088
Yeah, probably.

00:03:55.088 --> 00:03:57.808
I don't remember exactly, but I think it might have been.

00:03:57.808 --> 00:04:00.209
But either way, so we go up to the house.

00:04:00.209 --> 00:04:02.168
My dad's doing whatever he was doing in the house.

00:04:02.168 --> 00:04:04.929
I go, dad, I think I need to go to the hospital.

00:04:04.929 --> 00:04:13.144
He's like no, no, you don't go finish washing the car.

00:04:13.163 --> 00:04:16.473
So my buddy and I walked back outside to the car and I'm like I was in pain, obviously, and I go back in.

00:04:16.512 --> 00:04:18.461
I'm like no dad, I think I have to go to the hospital.

00:04:18.461 --> 00:04:25.826
I think I broke my wrist and we went to the hospital and sure as shit broke my wrist and you're fine, just walk it off.

00:04:26.249 --> 00:04:29.689
Yes, he was the type of guy that would say rub some dirt on it, yeah.

00:04:29.689 --> 00:04:31.959
And so we went to the hospital.

00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:33.045
My buddy came with.

00:04:33.045 --> 00:04:45.093
We ended up dropping him off on the way home, and I had a cast in eighth grade, and I always remember when it is too, because it's when the offspring's album came out and the video for Come Out and Play was there.

00:04:45.093 --> 00:04:46.947
The drummer had a cast on his arm.

00:04:46.947 --> 00:04:50.947
Yeah, he lost me with, I know, but some other people Al might get.

00:04:50.987 --> 00:04:53.382
It Okay, but I I think it's a band.

00:04:53.382 --> 00:04:54.244
He's talking about folks.

00:04:54.766 --> 00:04:56.129
Yeah, it is, oh yes, the Offspring.

00:04:56.129 --> 00:04:56.711
Yes, it's a band.

00:04:56.750 --> 00:04:57.012
Go me.

00:05:05.300 --> 00:05:06.064
And obviously me being a drummer.

00:05:06.064 --> 00:05:07.127
I thought it was funny because he also had a cast.

00:05:07.127 --> 00:05:09.276
Unless I'm just having a mandela effect here and remembering it wrong, but yeah you never know.

00:05:09.276 --> 00:05:10.600
But yeah, that was the type of guy my dad was.

00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:17.586
He's like rub some dirt on it, man, you're good no, I good story I need to go, so, anyways, well, uh what?

00:05:17.747 --> 00:05:21.779
what kind of beer do you have to get you down on this, this podcast episode?

00:05:22.060 --> 00:05:30.321
you had previously done a founders the all the all-day IPA which you like which you've had before, but you liked it and wanted it again, so I saw this.

00:05:30.321 --> 00:05:31.786
I didn't do an all-day.

00:05:31.786 --> 00:05:38.446
I did a Founders, though, and they have a Centennial IPA featuring Centennial hops.

00:05:38.446 --> 00:05:41.307
I like my IPAs.

00:05:41.307 --> 00:05:44.802
This should be a little more hop forward compared to your all-day.

00:05:44.824 --> 00:05:46.891
This should be a little more hop forward compared to your all day.

00:05:46.911 --> 00:05:48.076
A little bit more hippity, hop yeah.

00:05:48.076 --> 00:05:54.730
Peter Rabbit there is mine All right, so I've got a Lakefront Brewery, which I believe is.

00:05:54.730 --> 00:05:55.911
Milwaukee still.

00:05:55.911 --> 00:05:57.153
Oh, is it Milwaukee yeah?

00:05:57.595 --> 00:06:00.288
Okay, and this one is called Dive Beer.

00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:11.944
It is a Milwaukee lager, yep, and it kind of looks like a drive-in movie screen kind of thing.

00:06:11.944 --> 00:06:12.565
Yeah, nice dive beer.

00:06:12.565 --> 00:06:14.670
Whoa, that went all over your arm, all right.

00:06:14.711 --> 00:06:24.826
Well, cheers, all right all right, yeah, I like it it's pretty good, yeah, yeah, mine's not bad either well, take another sip of this.

00:06:24.826 --> 00:06:26.110
Yeah, mine's pretty good, I like it.

00:06:26.110 --> 00:06:32.129
I would say if five was like are we doing one to five?

00:06:32.129 --> 00:06:33.452
Yeah, let's do one to five.

00:06:33.452 --> 00:06:42.524
I think like if five was like excellent, five stars right, I would probably rate this about a three and a half okay to four somewhere around there.

00:06:42.524 --> 00:06:43.105
It's pretty good.

00:06:43.125 --> 00:06:44.771
I like it uh, mine's not bad.

00:06:44.771 --> 00:06:46.903
Out of five, I would probably give mine a three.

00:06:46.903 --> 00:07:02.274
Okay, so, um, it is not as hoppy as I thought it would be well, peter, I know he petered out hey see what I did there we are comedian nots Comedian knots.

00:07:02.274 --> 00:07:05.439
Comedian knots.

00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:05.600
Knots.

00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.146
No, we're buffoons.

00:07:08.346 --> 00:07:11.144
Okay, all right, I have a question for you.

00:07:11.144 --> 00:07:11.826
You do.

00:07:12.028 --> 00:07:12.288
Okay.

00:07:13.581 --> 00:07:18.350
Did you ever in your life have like a plan B Like?

00:07:19.233 --> 00:07:22.048
Hmm, like, instead of going this way yeah.

00:07:22.819 --> 00:07:24.165
You have a backup plan.

00:07:25.528 --> 00:07:29.509
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess I did.

00:07:29.831 --> 00:07:31.444
Yeah, is that something you can share?

00:07:31.704 --> 00:07:32.949
Yeah, divorced my ex-wife.

00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:37.507
So you went plan B, I did plan B.

00:07:37.507 --> 00:07:38.331
This wasn't working.

00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.629
Because plan AAA did not work and I'll give you the joke on that later.

00:07:44.629 --> 00:07:50.449
I'm not going to share that because I'm not saying her name, but anyways, yeah, that was my plan B.

00:07:51.641 --> 00:07:53.824
And you went with it, I had to.

00:07:54.300 --> 00:07:57.769
Yeah, you had to, I fear there was an early grave if I didn't.

00:07:58.230 --> 00:07:59.175
Well, welcome.

00:07:59.495 --> 00:08:00.300
Thank you, you're welcome.

00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:01.740
Welcome to the rest of your life.

00:08:01.961 --> 00:08:02.562
How about you?

00:08:04.324 --> 00:08:17.656
So I wanted to be a biologist of some sort, right, and I went through so many like quote unquote career changes Sure, that I don't think I ever had a plan.

00:08:17.937 --> 00:08:17.956
A.

00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.790
I just did whatever came, which is understandable and it's always been really successful Well that's good, at least.

00:08:24.790 --> 00:08:25.345
Yeah, came, which is and it's always been really successful.

00:08:25.345 --> 00:08:26.004
Well, that's good, at least.

00:08:26.004 --> 00:08:32.735
Yeah, um, but I guess when I was selling hearing aids, yeah, um, I didn't want to do that.

00:08:32.735 --> 00:08:38.173
I didn't like the price of hearing aids and me like, so I didn't like sales you couldn't peddle those.

00:08:38.293 --> 00:08:42.445
Yeah, um, I understand that and, uh, I wanted to.

00:08:42.905 --> 00:08:44.409
Actually I didn't even know this was a thing.

00:08:44.409 --> 00:08:59.167
I became an esthetician right so I could pop pimples for a living and I didn't know that that was a thing I thought it was just dermatology sure I get that and my husband, who I was dating at the time, was like look into that, see if there's something else, and sure shit there's.

00:08:59.167 --> 00:09:02.501
I could be an esthetician I was I.

00:09:02.501 --> 00:09:09.485
I went to esthetician school within like a month, oh nice yeah, of of like quitting my job, like it was.

00:09:09.485 --> 00:09:11.230
It was such a quick turnaround.

00:09:11.270 --> 00:09:22.424
It was great, sure, and it's been great ever since well, okay, if we're going that route, my plan b, my plan a was to be a rock star that's right, yeah, I wanted.

00:09:22.424 --> 00:09:24.650
I've played the drums the majority of my life.

00:09:24.650 --> 00:09:36.808
I wanted to uh, I wanted to play drums for a living, and I will blame myself a hundred percent for that not end up being the case.

00:09:36.830 --> 00:09:42.462
Um, and I also will blame my other plan a that I went to plan B with the ex wife.

00:09:42.462 --> 00:09:44.285
She was not very supportive.

00:09:44.285 --> 00:09:45.467
Um, terrible.

00:09:45.467 --> 00:09:51.346
She, you know, wanted to uh keep me down from like, going places and doing things.

00:09:51.346 --> 00:09:57.841
And that's what you need to do when you're in a band you have to go play shows you have to do all that, and it was hard when you were under lock and key all the time.

00:09:57.880 --> 00:10:21.642
So, but uh, I'm not here to bash the devil, I'll just move on well, we're gonna talk about trottle young trottle young her, her plan a okay was to be a ballerina ballerina but her plan b kind of took over sure okay, so was it.

00:10:21.922 --> 00:10:24.505
Was it a unintentional plan B?

00:10:25.849 --> 00:10:29.235
It was a fallback that became the forerunner.

00:10:29.235 --> 00:10:30.441
Gotcha.

00:10:30.441 --> 00:10:37.451
So Trottle Young was born Gertrude Humps in Munich, Germany.

00:10:37.451 --> 00:10:44.058
I love that last name Humps Humps and she was born on March 16th 1920.

00:10:44.058 --> 00:10:49.110
Okay, she came from a family like oozing and like right wing ideology.

00:10:49.110 --> 00:10:59.091
Okay, her father, max Humps, was a brewer, a master brewer, ooh, and he had anti-Republican national and anti-Semitic views.

00:11:01.424 --> 00:11:03.890
So did they say where he was a master brewer at no.

00:11:04.231 --> 00:11:08.341
Mother did he?

00:11:08.341 --> 00:11:09.764
Did they say where he was a master brewer?

00:11:09.764 --> 00:11:10.105
At no mother.

00:11:10.105 --> 00:11:13.293
This my information, like 90 of my information came from trottle, young's own like autobiography.

00:11:13.313 --> 00:11:13.735
Oh okay, so she had.

00:11:13.735 --> 00:11:14.336
She wrote a book.

00:11:14.336 --> 00:11:16.304
Yes, did she write she wrote the book.

00:11:16.645 --> 00:11:20.014
She wrote the book okay um spoiler alert.

00:11:20.014 --> 00:11:27.798
She died um prior to it oh really being released, so it was released post so it was released posthumously.

00:11:27.837 --> 00:11:28.519
Thank you, you're welcome.

00:11:29.400 --> 00:11:38.933
But the book and this kind of gives way to the time era that we're talking about you already said she was born in 1920.

00:11:38.933 --> 00:11:43.571
That's fair, so the book is called until the final hour, hitler's last secretary.

00:11:43.691 --> 00:12:09.659
Yeah, and it was trottle young okay I mean that makes sense, because what the war ended, 45 right is that right yes, so I mean, she was like 25 yes so I mean, it kind of led me to believe that it was world war ii based so her father, max um actively participated in the fry core, which is free core in america by the way, the name max humps is just fucking hilarious.

00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:15.971
It's also funny because I guess I never even said this, maybe on the podcast.

00:12:16.131 --> 00:12:22.500
My dog died too you did, once did I, okay, I couldn't remember, but uh, his name was max.

00:12:22.942 --> 00:12:26.950
Luckily he didn't hump anyways I beg to differ did he?

00:12:27.009 --> 00:12:33.559
oh no, he did that to you, he did that to me and I have it on video, because he did it to your daughter and I was like max get off, that's right.

00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.183
So, max humps, there you go.

00:12:35.224 --> 00:12:49.989
Yep, wow, trottle, trottle and me have something in common, okay he actively participated in the fry corps, which is a paramilitary group okay, that classed with leftist parties in the early weimar republic, which is the german reich gotcha.

00:12:49.989 --> 00:12:54.682
So max's extremism extended by joining the nazi party.

00:12:54.682 --> 00:13:02.600
Okay, and he failed a coup d'etat, oh yes, and he evaded arrest but was unable to get employment.

00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:05.549
So he left for Turkey, abandoning his family.

00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.149
Oh, so he just up and left because he failed, yeah, and like well, I got to go get work, see ya, yeah, peace, I'm out of here.

00:13:11.389 --> 00:13:11.630
Yeah.

00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.807
Does Turkey have a famous master brewing class or something?

00:13:14.807 --> 00:13:16.714
I don't know?

00:13:16.714 --> 00:13:17.355
I don't know.

00:13:17.355 --> 00:13:20.985
I mean, did it ever say what he did after he left, or does it kind of just end with him there?

00:13:20.985 --> 00:13:22.971
No, it ends with him, yeah, leaving.

00:13:24.261 --> 00:13:30.067
And so huge financial burden on Trottle's mother, obviously, and she struggled to make ends meet, don't?

00:13:30.128 --> 00:13:30.389
we all.

00:13:31.419 --> 00:13:33.668
Trottle went to school to help.

00:13:33.668 --> 00:13:40.116
She went to school and served, which served as like a breeding ground for nazi ideology.

00:13:40.116 --> 00:13:53.051
Of course, there were discussions um which normalized concepts like the nierenberg laws, which is about like race, racial hygiene, and the jewish question, like what do we do with the jewish?

00:13:53.211 --> 00:13:54.573
that's fucked up that.

00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:10.129
That's even a question yeah I understand the time frame, so yeah so one of the laws um was the law of protection of german blood and german honor, and it forbade marriages and extramarital intercourse between jews and germans so it forbade it.

00:14:10.149 --> 00:14:11.514
But it doesn't mean you couldn't do it.

00:14:12.116 --> 00:14:18.330
I mean just saying and then the employment of german females under 45 and jewish households.

00:14:19.491 --> 00:14:20.774
Oh, so 46.

00:14:20.774 --> 00:14:24.888
Yeah, you can go work in a Jewish household, but you're under 40, 45 or younger Yep, that's weird.

00:14:25.400 --> 00:14:42.471
The other law was the Reich Citizenship Law, which declared that only those of German or related blood were eligible to be Reich citizens and the remainder were classified as state subjects without citizenship rights State subjects Wow Okay.

00:14:42.471 --> 00:14:52.086
So, as Trottle readily accepted the notion of Bolshevism as like a threat to civilization I'm saying that word a lot that's all right.

00:14:52.086 --> 00:14:53.190
Civilization.

00:14:53.190 --> 00:15:01.510
She embraced the rise of Adolf Hitler, okay, and she later described it as like a national liberation.

00:15:01.510 --> 00:15:06.491
It's a chance for Germany to regain hope, confidence.

00:15:07.301 --> 00:15:08.544
And their failure of World War.

00:15:08.666 --> 00:15:10.051
I.

00:15:10.673 --> 00:15:11.615
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:15:13.500 --> 00:15:20.475
Fueled by this optimism, she joined the German Girls League in 1935.

00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:21.442
So she would have been.

00:15:21.442 --> 00:15:22.245
What 15 then?

00:15:22.746 --> 00:15:28.451
Yes, it was the only legal female youth organization in Nazi Germany.

00:15:28.451 --> 00:15:32.909
It was the girls' wing of the Nazi Party youth movement.

00:15:32.909 --> 00:15:44.785
Okay, so, balancing the need to help her family financially and then her dream of becoming a dancer, she did opt to go to a commercial college in 1936.

00:15:45.907 --> 00:15:48.168
Okay, so what was the name of the Women's League?

00:15:48.168 --> 00:15:49.389
Thing again, sorry.

00:15:49.649 --> 00:15:54.851
It was the German Girls League.

00:15:55.293 --> 00:15:59.695
Was that probably equivalent is not the right word, I don't think.

00:15:59.695 --> 00:16:02.197
But is that somewhat equivalent to like the Hitler Youth thing?

00:16:02.476 --> 00:16:03.157
Yes, it is.

00:16:03.157 --> 00:16:06.481
Oh, yes, yes, it is Awesome.

00:16:06.481 --> 00:16:17.394
So, balancing the need to help her family, she ended up going to college so she learned practical skills like shorthand and typing and she was able to get a job really quickly.

00:16:17.394 --> 00:16:29.106
So her first position was a clerk and it ended abruptly because of sexual harassment from her superior oh dear apparently he like pulled her aside and showed her some porn or something they had porn back then.

00:16:29.307 --> 00:16:39.293
Yeah, just kidding yeah look at this magazine I found in the ditch it's probably someone's ankles you have some nice ankles.

00:16:39.293 --> 00:16:40.054
What?

00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.370
In 1938, Trottle joined the Faith and Beauty Program.

00:16:44.842 --> 00:16:45.779
Faith and Beauty.

00:16:46.441 --> 00:16:52.553
A new wing of the German Girls' League, targeting Aryan women age 18 to 21.

00:16:52.553 --> 00:17:01.518
And it served as a tie-in between the League of German Girls and the National Socialist Women's League Gotcha.

00:17:01.518 --> 00:17:12.808
So the group's mission was to instill Nazi ideology in young women, shaping them to be incarnations of beauty, future mothers who would raise children devoted to the regime.

00:17:12.808 --> 00:17:12.888
Wow.

00:17:14.171 --> 00:17:14.471
I mean.

00:17:15.713 --> 00:17:16.335
All in the family.

00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:17.726
Yeah, I mean, they really kept the.

00:17:17.726 --> 00:17:23.652
They tried to get him young, I guess so she really wanted to be a ballerina.

00:17:23.672 --> 00:17:35.905
She did continue to like, take classes and everything oh, she did okay yes, but war basically like put everything on a standstill which, yeah, which is understandable yeah, so in 1941, after passing her dance exams.

00:17:35.905 --> 00:17:40.230
Not nazi control over jobs meant um.

00:17:40.230 --> 00:17:44.721
Individual ideals were secondary to them yeah.

00:17:44.761 --> 00:17:51.325
So if you want to be a dancer, fuck you go do this, because we need you to so this is plan b, yeah, okay did, did.

00:17:51.325 --> 00:17:54.971
Uh, you said she took classes for being a ballerina.

00:17:55.152 --> 00:18:04.035
She never went to like college or anything for that, no, but she did have exams, so to speak or final projects, I guess final dances.

00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:10.676
Okay, that's why I asked that, because I wasn't sure if it was a school-type setting or just a class that she took.

00:18:10.676 --> 00:18:11.097
Yeah, okay.

00:18:12.641 --> 00:18:21.394
So her reality of not being a ballerina brought her to Berlin, and a position in the new Reich Chancellery opened up.

00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:23.705
Did you say where she was born?

00:18:23.705 --> 00:18:25.269
In Germany, munich, munich.

00:18:25.269 --> 00:18:25.590
Okay.

00:18:26.740 --> 00:18:32.984
So in 1942, Hitler had three secretaries, that's a lot of secretaries, man.

00:18:32.984 --> 00:18:34.289
Frau Christian.

00:18:34.289 --> 00:18:36.608
He had a lot to say, if you recall.

00:18:37.099 --> 00:18:37.983
Yeah, I mean he was.

00:18:37.983 --> 00:18:40.846
He had a lot to say, he was always talking uh.

00:18:40.846 --> 00:18:49.193
So frau christian, and he trusted her exclusively so she was like top dog yeah, secretary yes, but she recently left.

00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:50.804
She was getting old up there in age.

00:18:50.804 --> 00:18:51.385
Oh was she.

00:18:51.546 --> 00:18:53.352
Yeah, so she went to go work in a jewish home.

00:18:53.352 --> 00:18:54.241
Was she 46?

00:18:54.241 --> 00:18:55.304
I mean?

00:18:55.324 --> 00:18:55.663
that's just.

00:18:55.663 --> 00:18:57.989
That's still just a weird-ass thing, but all right.

00:18:57.989 --> 00:19:00.973
No, I just like how you brought it right around.

00:19:00.973 --> 00:19:09.230
So Hitler relied on the other two pretty heavily so, fraulein Wolf and Fraulein Schroeder.

00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:17.074
But they also were kind of getting up there in age and Hitler wanted to recruit some younger secretaries.

00:19:17.074 --> 00:19:24.732
So in November 1942, 10 young women, including Trottle, were summoned to Fuhrer headquarters.

00:19:26.579 --> 00:19:27.121
Was she still?

00:19:27.181 --> 00:19:27.761
Gertrude at this time.

00:19:27.761 --> 00:19:30.606
Trottle is a nickname for Gertrude.

00:19:31.288 --> 00:19:34.553
Oh really, yes, that's a weird nickname, all right.

00:19:35.213 --> 00:19:39.204
Yeah so moving on.

00:19:39.204 --> 00:19:59.336
So they traveled to Rastenberg Station, which is in east prussia, and they were invited onto like a luxurious guest train sure, and that's where they, like, waited to meet hitler okay so days and days passed before he showed up before their introduction.

00:19:59.336 --> 00:20:04.728
Yeah, so in the meantime, the women, like, pretended they were on vacation, essentially.

00:20:04.728 --> 00:20:05.950
Well, why not at that point?

00:20:05.950 --> 00:20:08.261
Yeah, they explored the forest around them.

00:20:08.522 --> 00:20:18.619
They treated themselves very well with, um a fancy liquor in the dining car were they just like basically catered to them, like here's your dinners and stuff they're fed.

00:20:18.740 --> 00:20:33.291
Yeah, yeah, all they were waiting and they had like snowball fights and they went hiking in the woods and that kind of thing showed some ankle at the local tavern exactly so unexpectedly, in the middle of the night, they were summoned finally to to go meet hitler.

00:20:33.593 --> 00:20:34.979
It's on his schedule, not theirs.

00:20:34.999 --> 00:20:37.104
So so women were in a tizzy?

00:20:37.104 --> 00:20:38.286
Sure, yeah, they were.

00:20:38.286 --> 00:20:39.509
They were sleeping.

00:20:39.509 --> 00:20:54.239
So panic, disarray, franticness, they all got dressed, put on makeup and they were guided through multiple checkpoints and down a long path to the Fuhrer bunker, which is called the Wolf's Lair.

00:20:54.239 --> 00:20:57.061
At this point, okay, and this is in East Prussia, gotcha.

00:20:57.082 --> 00:20:57.583
Okay, okay, and this is in.

00:20:57.603 --> 00:20:58.243
East Prussia, gotcha.

00:20:58.243 --> 00:21:06.073
Okay, the guards let them in, basically without searching any of their bags, their person, because they all had terrified looks on their faces.

00:21:06.192 --> 00:21:07.494
So these people aren't going to do anything.

00:21:07.535 --> 00:21:08.296
Yeah, exactly.

00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:14.971
That's pretty wild though I mean even if they look terrified, you're not going to pat them down to make sure this isn't some assassin for Hitler.

00:21:14.971 --> 00:21:23.740
Yeah, good Lord yeah, good lord.

00:21:23.760 --> 00:21:27.608
So inside a narrow concrete corridor led them to a waiting room which was shared by other domestic staff and hitler's orderlies okay.

00:21:27.608 --> 00:21:34.507
So his valet informed them that hitler was feeding his dogs and instructed them on what to do.

00:21:34.507 --> 00:21:40.074
Hitler would address them first and they were to only reply with Heil Mein Feuer.

00:21:40.515 --> 00:21:41.155
Okay, okay.

00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:49.273
So, led by Albert Bormann, who was an adjutant, he was a military officer who did like admin work.

00:21:49.273 --> 00:21:53.892
Okay, they proceeded to Hitler's study, passing through a cute little tea room.

00:21:53.892 --> 00:22:02.983
Upon entering the study, hitler greeted them all warmly, shaking each of their hands and asking their names and where they're from.

00:22:02.983 --> 00:22:05.310
And, like I said, this is all coming from trottle herself, right.

00:22:05.310 --> 00:22:14.290
So after a brief exchange they were dismissed and they never even got a chance to say like heilmann, fear, oh, wow, okay, I think they were all just shocked.

00:22:14.732 --> 00:22:15.414
I would imagine.

00:22:15.454 --> 00:22:21.080
Yeah, so the women were told that they would be required to do a dictation test for the fear, okay.

00:22:21.080 --> 00:22:25.588
So days again turned into weeks, jesus, of just nothing.

00:22:25.588 --> 00:22:32.569
And then, finally, trottle and one other woman, um, were requested to perform their test so the other.

00:22:32.690 --> 00:22:36.326
You said 10 total, so the other eight yes, we're just dismissed, or no?

00:22:36.365 --> 00:22:38.432
they were just waiting around for their next, their turn.

00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:39.017
they just called those.

00:22:39.017 --> 00:22:39.473
Okay, yeah, so.

00:22:39.473 --> 00:22:39.968
They called waiting around for their next return.

00:22:39.886 --> 00:22:43.310
They just called those two Okay, yeah, so they called this woman and Trottle first, gotcha, okay.

00:22:43.310 --> 00:22:46.690
So Trottle actually did perform the dictation first.

00:22:46.690 --> 00:22:51.672
So with just her and Hitler in a closed off room, she typed his dictation.

00:22:51.672 --> 00:22:57.432
She does not remember what it was about because she was so nervous, oh really, yeah.

00:22:57.432 --> 00:23:07.233
Upon finishing her test, hitler complimented her for a job well done and Trottle left his office and returned to sit with like with the other secretary.

00:23:07.233 --> 00:23:14.185
Okay, and Trottle kind of explained her experience with the other woman here's what I did, here's what he likes, et cetera.

00:23:14.586 --> 00:23:15.984
Wow, so she's given her notes.

00:23:15.984 --> 00:23:17.422
Yes, yes, that's kind of nice of her.

00:23:18.344 --> 00:23:23.032
Hitler suddenly appeared and offered Trottle the job, without any other woman getting a chance.

00:23:23.272 --> 00:23:30.251
Oh, wow, so he must have impressed her quite a bit then, because you got all these other women waiting to take your dictation.

00:23:31.134 --> 00:23:33.689
Yep, so she stayed there the other night and went back to Berlin.

00:23:34.260 --> 00:23:37.289
Oh, they probably had to be pretty sad to get off their little party train.

00:23:37.881 --> 00:23:57.750
Maybe not knowing eventually what happens maybe like I, I think I dodged a bullet with that one yeah, but she lived because she wrote she wrote this autobiography so I mean I wonder if those other nine women lived through that's fair the war that's fair, yeah that's it.

00:23:58.071 --> 00:23:59.836
That would be kind of interesting to find out.

00:24:00.077 --> 00:24:07.513
We probably never could maybe, maybe plan a was to work for hitler and plan b was something entirely different.

00:24:07.513 --> 00:24:07.693
Could?

00:24:07.740 --> 00:24:07.960
have been?

00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.663
Could have been a chef could have been a chef.

00:24:10.763 --> 00:24:14.729
Look at that, maybe she could be employed.

00:24:14.729 --> 00:24:15.790
Hitler another way.

00:24:16.811 --> 00:24:19.955
Well, you know, let's move on.

00:24:19.955 --> 00:24:22.526
Excellent decision.

00:24:24.080 --> 00:24:27.431
So Hitler frequently asked Trottle for a dictation.

00:24:27.431 --> 00:24:37.465
So on January 30th 1943, she was called in, expecting like an oath or a swearing in or something like a ceremony Sure, as the other two senior secretaries were also there.

00:24:37.465 --> 00:24:39.880
So she's like expecting like a formal something rather Sure, um, as the other two senior um secretaries were also there.

00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:44.030
So she's like expecting like a formal something rather.

00:24:44.030 --> 00:24:46.505
Okay, it wasn't anything like that.

00:24:46.505 --> 00:24:50.806
Oh he was just like hey, this is so-and-so, this is so-and-so, she's, she's hired.

00:24:51.106 --> 00:24:52.671
Yeah, she's the new, the new girl.

00:24:52.671 --> 00:24:53.593
Yeah, basically.

00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:02.342
Fair enough, he did pull her side.

00:25:02.342 --> 00:25:08.363
Oh, he cautioned her about the attention she might receive from his guards and other male colleagues, oh really, and assured her that she could come to him at any point for protection oh wow.

00:25:09.384 --> 00:25:13.540
I mean you got the top dog protecting you, even though he's a piece of shit yep.

00:25:13.721 --> 00:25:23.585
So from that day forward, as his secretary, she had regular interactions with him okay, um dictation, taking long walks with him and having meals with him oh wow.

00:25:25.087 --> 00:25:29.743
So she kind of became his almost right-hand man, in a way, kind of yeah, right hand.

00:25:29.763 --> 00:25:34.472
So she wasn't called upon for dictation initially okay um.

00:25:34.472 --> 00:25:48.152
So instead her routine for like the first four weeks would involve checking in each morning and seeing if there were any tasks for her Gotcha, and then she would inform the valet on duty of her whereabouts.

00:25:48.152 --> 00:25:51.069
Like I've got nothing going on, so here's where I'll be.

00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.974
Yeah, I suppose he probably wanted to have them accessible at any moment so they had to check in.

00:25:55.974 --> 00:25:57.339
Basically Right Makes sense.

00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:02.872
So during this period she took the opportunity to get to know those close to Hitler.

00:26:02.872 --> 00:26:10.027
Sure Makes sense, and this included the valets Right, heinz Ling, heinz Mm-hmm and Hans Jung.

00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:11.984
Do you think Heinz's nickname was Ketchup?

00:26:11.984 --> 00:26:14.070
No, okay.

00:26:16.041 --> 00:26:19.451
So they alternated shifts every other day the two valets.

00:26:19.692 --> 00:26:19.971
Okay.

00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:21.506
And so they alternated shifts every other day.

00:26:21.506 --> 00:26:23.836
The two valets, okay, and they were selected from Hitler's personal bodyguards.

00:26:23.836 --> 00:26:26.988
Oh wow, their roles were pretty demanding.

00:26:27.229 --> 00:26:27.470
Sure.

00:26:29.663 --> 00:26:34.773
So they would manage his daily routine, his meals, his wardrobe.

00:26:34.773 --> 00:26:37.830
They were basically functioning like personal assistants.

00:26:37.830 --> 00:26:38.313
Yeah, sounds that way.

00:26:38.333 --> 00:26:39.357
Yeah, if they're doing all of those different tasks.

00:26:39.377 --> 00:26:39.900
Yeah, sounds that way yeah.

00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:42.546
If they're doing all of those different tasks.

00:26:42.546 --> 00:26:43.951
So, yeah, okay.

00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.548
So Trottle noticed Hitler's preference for attractive women.

00:26:48.330 --> 00:26:48.431
Oh.

00:26:50.063 --> 00:26:52.851
And it was more important to him than pretty much any other quality.

00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.787
Yeah, just the looks.

00:26:54.787 --> 00:26:56.660
So he liked the cover, not the pages.

00:26:56.660 --> 00:26:58.320
Yep, all right, yep, so he liked the cover, not the pages.

00:26:59.040 --> 00:27:06.843
Yep, all right, yep, but she defied him and his initial warning of men watching her because she began a relationship with his valet, hans Young.

00:27:07.563 --> 00:27:10.584
Oh, getting a little frisky with the Hans yeah.

00:27:10.663 --> 00:27:14.813
So it wasn't a secret Hitler or any of his inner circle.

00:27:15.244 --> 00:27:16.971
Sure, they were open about it.

00:27:16.971 --> 00:27:17.373
They were.

00:27:18.788 --> 00:27:28.289
So one of their motivations to marry eventually was to secure Hans' position on the front lines.

00:27:28.289 --> 00:27:32.075
Yes, so this is a quote from Trottle.

00:27:32.075 --> 00:27:39.432
Hans Jung was a particular favorite of the Fuhrers, serving him devotedly and with a strong sense of duty.

00:27:39.432 --> 00:27:43.325
All the same, he was anxious to get further away from Hitler.

00:27:43.325 --> 00:27:55.721
He was one of the few people to realize that in the long run, hitler's ideas would have such an effect on you that in the end you wouldn't know what you had thought of yourself and what was due to outside influence.

00:27:55.721 --> 00:27:59.506
Hans wanted his sense of objectivity back and wow.

00:28:00.366 --> 00:28:06.097
So basically what he's saying there is hitler knew how to get in your head and make.

00:28:06.097 --> 00:28:07.405
I mean, look what he did.

00:28:07.405 --> 00:28:15.489
Obviously it's very it's amazing that he did that to all those people, but could you imagine being that close to him and having that affect?

00:28:15.509 --> 00:28:15.990
you like that?

00:28:16.029 --> 00:28:29.508
and him have the right sense of mind to fucking notice it I mean that's pretty impressive, because usually you don't even notice it because well they're, they're so close, they're steering your brain for you, basically, and yeah, it's wild.

00:28:29.508 --> 00:28:32.334
But good on him to be like, yeah, I gotta go.

00:28:32.734 --> 00:28:41.452
Yeah, this is probably not good for me so hitler agreed for trottle and Hans to marry Aw, because apparently they needed his permission.

00:28:41.452 --> 00:28:41.874
I don't know.

00:28:42.346 --> 00:28:44.413
You don't have to ask for dads, you got to ask for fears.

00:28:45.164 --> 00:28:49.396
But while Hans was going to the front lines, he's like Trottle can stay working for me.

00:28:49.396 --> 00:28:56.917
So Trottle and Hans had a brief honeymoon at Lake Constance, which is a lake between Switzerland, germany and Austria.

00:28:57.338 --> 00:28:57.659
Oh, okay.

00:28:57.904 --> 00:28:58.950
And then he left for duty.

00:28:59.904 --> 00:29:07.815
Did they, and sorry if I'm jumping on the gun on this does it say exactly where he went to the front lines and stuff.

00:29:07.996 --> 00:29:11.252
Okay, If he did, I did not write it down, that's fine.

00:29:11.252 --> 00:29:34.454
So, Hitler excuse me Trottle started observing Hitler's dreams of what would happen after the war okay um, he wanted to be surrounded by artists and academics and she thought that that was super, super odd to be like, be thinking of, considering how bad the war was escalating well, yeah, and like wasn't, wasn't hitler a artist?

00:29:34.454 --> 00:29:38.304
Yeah, I think so At a young age and something like that.

00:29:38.364 --> 00:29:41.952
And obviously he wrote his book Mein Kampf, whatever.

00:29:41.952 --> 00:29:55.891
But it's funny that this guy who basically wanted to annihilate an entire race, the Jewish people, was like, yeah, I want to paint and have these people around me painting.

00:29:56.766 --> 00:29:58.990
He wanted to retire in Austria.

00:29:59.951 --> 00:30:01.013
Isn't that where he's originally from?

00:30:01.013 --> 00:30:13.028
I believe he wasn't born in germany no I don't think so unless I'm mixing up my, my hitlers, but but no, I I think.

00:30:13.028 --> 00:30:17.593
I want to say he was originally from Austria, but I guess I don't know.

00:30:18.133 --> 00:30:19.875
Yeah, he was born in Austria.

00:30:19.875 --> 00:30:21.596
Look at you, yeah.

00:30:23.057 --> 00:30:26.260
I might be a buffoon, but I know random stuff.

00:30:26.401 --> 00:30:26.621
Yeah.

00:30:31.865 --> 00:30:34.664
So he wanted to be far away from the military world, which is kind of Like after the facts kind of thing.

00:30:34.704 --> 00:30:45.740
He imagined his future self dictating his memoirs with wolf and schroeder, and um, he would think that trotter would like move on with his lives.

00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:57.017
But so he was imagining like his older secretaries hanging around and like being with him okay, sure so hans young ended up dying oh weird um.

00:30:57.017 --> 00:30:58.378
He was in normandy.

00:30:58.398 --> 00:31:05.138
He had an airstrike um and that wasn't like d-day normandy airstrike, was it.

00:31:05.138 --> 00:31:15.295
It was just I don't know what it happened to be normandy and yeah, okay, yeah, either way um so ss liaison officer herman fangling.

00:31:15.315 --> 00:31:19.079
Liaison Officer Herman Fengling relayed this information to Hitler.

00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:19.780
Okay.

00:31:20.405 --> 00:31:24.113
And he relayed it to Trottle because, Hitler didn't want to face her himself.

00:31:24.794 --> 00:31:24.954
Oh.

00:31:26.577 --> 00:31:26.837
Really.

00:31:27.058 --> 00:31:30.351
Mm-hmm, because it was basically his fault.

00:31:30.351 --> 00:31:31.855
He wanted to go to the front lines, kind of thing.

00:31:32.384 --> 00:31:35.655
Eventually, when they crossed paths, he did express some sorrow.

00:31:35.655 --> 00:31:37.690
Oh that's super nice.

00:31:37.730 --> 00:31:42.025
Yeah, yeah so by january 1945.

00:31:42.726 --> 00:32:04.122
Nazi defeat was pretty heavy cloud it was imminent it was imminent and trottel and the rest of hitler staff relocated to the fuhrer bunker yeah, the main center of berlin, yeah yeah, bunker is not an understatement, it is a bunker oh, his, his thing was ridiculous yeah it was like a little city underneath the ground basically yeah

00:32:04.142 --> 00:32:26.876
this is wild so um taken from trottle young's book quote by now the fierce, huge underground bunker in the grounds of the reich chancellery had been made ready 11 meters or 12 yards of thick reinforced concrete covered the little cabins and rooms inside, but only a flat roof emerged above ground level.

00:32:27.438 --> 00:32:41.795
The bunker was intended only for temporary accommodation during an air raid, but when an incendiary bomb made the living rooms above ground uninhabitable, particularly the library, it became permanent living space for Hitler and his staff.

00:32:41.795 --> 00:32:51.660
But in the evening, punctual as clockwork, enemy aircraft came over and we had to dine with Hitler in the little room in the bunker where he lived and worked.

00:32:51.660 --> 00:32:55.554
It was a tiny place in the very heart of the new Fuhrer bunker.

00:32:55.554 --> 00:32:56.115
End quote.

00:32:56.395 --> 00:33:01.590
Wow, I mean, could you imagine living underground like that, like you're in your own little hobbit hole?

00:33:01.852 --> 00:33:04.050
Yeah, I think that would be stifling.

00:33:04.673 --> 00:33:06.471
Yeah, I mean, I would think.

00:33:07.173 --> 00:33:11.996
Yeah, so the taking of Berlin was rapidly becoming worse.

00:33:12.317 --> 00:33:12.557
Okay.

00:33:12.684 --> 00:33:15.515
And Hitler dismissed his older secretaries.

00:33:16.125 --> 00:33:17.730
Why did they get to be dismissed?

00:33:17.951 --> 00:33:22.510
I don't know, Maybe he had a kind soul for them and he was like get out while you can.

00:33:22.765 --> 00:33:25.569
He did not have a kind soul, he was a dick.

00:33:25.769 --> 00:33:31.416
I know, but he cared about the people super, super close to him, and that's about it.

00:33:31.805 --> 00:33:34.914
Yeah, that was kind of evident with his weirdness.

00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:51.146
So by the end of Aprilil the red army was closing in and despite the imminent defeat, hitler clung to some like weird delusional hope well, I mean, if you're in that position, you kind of have to yeah, he was like saying that we're gonna have some last stand fights.

00:33:51.146 --> 00:33:56.035
Yeah, um, anyone retreating are gonna get executed like he.

00:33:56.035 --> 00:34:03.055
He was trying to stand firm yeah, of course, yeah even escape suggestions were dismissed.

00:34:03.256 --> 00:34:18.456
He, he had this like fear of public humiliation, like they would catch him, put him on display, etc oh really, yeah, he was like worried about that, yeah so the public humiliation outweighed like any desire for survival.

00:34:18.925 --> 00:34:21.673
So that's probably part of the reason why he ended up killing himself.

00:34:21.755 --> 00:34:21.954
Yeah.

00:34:22.425 --> 00:34:23.711
And his wife Eva Braun.

00:34:24.324 --> 00:34:29.585
So, in this chaos, Hitler dictated his final will and testament to throttle oh wow.

00:34:29.585 --> 00:34:32.094
Leaving everything to the crumbling Nazi party.

00:34:34.226 --> 00:34:35.146
Should have gave it to throttle.

00:34:35.146 --> 00:34:36.047
At least she could have used it.

00:34:36.168 --> 00:34:40.592
I know, she says, quote side by side, we go to his conference room.

00:34:40.592 --> 00:34:46.378
I am about to remove the cover from my typewriter but the fear says take it down on the shorthand pad.

00:34:46.378 --> 00:34:47.780
I sit alone.

00:34:47.780 --> 00:34:51.786
Excuse me, I sit down alone at the big table and wait.

00:34:51.786 --> 00:35:04.175
Hitler stands in his usual place by the broad side of the table, leans both hands hands on it and stares at the empty tabletop, no longer covered today with maps or street plans, for several seconds.

00:35:04.175 --> 00:35:15.552
If the concrete didn't act like a drum skin, mercilessly amplifying the reverberations of every bomb blast in every shot, you could have only heard the breathing of two human beings.

00:35:15.552 --> 00:35:21.172
Then, suddenly, the Fuhrer utters the first words my political statement.

00:35:21.172 --> 00:35:24.112
For a moment, my hand trembles.

00:35:24.112 --> 00:35:36.072
Now, at last, I shall hear what we've been waiting for for days an explanation of what has happened, a confession, even a confession of guilt, or perhaps a justification.

00:35:36.072 --> 00:35:43.590
This final document of the thousand year right should contain the real truth told by a man with nothing left to lose.

00:35:43.590 --> 00:35:44.251
End quote.

00:35:45.092 --> 00:35:45.353
Wow.

00:35:45.715 --> 00:35:46.596
But the answer is no.

00:35:47.759 --> 00:35:49.409
Oh so really.

00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:50.253
Yep, it was.

00:35:50.253 --> 00:35:54.775
She said it was hollow, there was no passion and there were no justifications.

00:35:54.985 --> 00:35:56.420
So he was just putting some words down Pretty much.

00:35:56.420 --> 00:36:06.532
Wow, that's disappointing Cause yeah, you passion and there were no justifications, so he was just putting some words down pretty much wow, that's disappointing because, yeah, you like, all right cool, we can finally understand the, the reason behind the madness and well, that was disappointing.

00:36:06.893 --> 00:36:22.820
Pretty much that sucks on april 29, excuse me, on april 28th 1945, hitler married ava braun, his longtime girlfriend Correct, and they pledged their Aryan descent before being married.

00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:25.123
Well, yeah, duh.

00:36:25.123 --> 00:36:33.936
So during the forced wedding festivities, trottle continued typing up Hitler's last will and testament.

00:36:33.936 --> 00:36:38.416
When Goebbels arrived in her office and he was crying Goe her office.

00:36:38.416 --> 00:36:39.885
And he was crying gobels he was crying.

00:36:39.885 --> 00:36:47.389
Gobels was ordered to leave berlin for a new government role oh really, but he refused oh yeah, because he was.

00:36:48.251 --> 00:36:59.219
He was all about the hitler he dictated a testament defying hitler for the first time, choosing death okay with national socialism over life without it.

00:36:59.219 --> 00:37:00.650
What a dumbass.

00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:06.336
So once her documents were typed, the wills and testaments were taken out of Berlin by a courier.

00:37:06.336 --> 00:37:08.010
Sure, I do not know where they went.

00:37:09.527 --> 00:37:10.913
Yeah, I'd be curious to know that.

00:37:10.913 --> 00:37:13.530
Like did they survive Did?

00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:13.831
they.

00:37:14.353 --> 00:37:15.597
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

00:37:16.125 --> 00:37:25.971
So Hitler was paranoid that the cyanide capsule he was going to take wouldn't entirely kill him okay and then he'd be taken into custody of the red army and be ridiculed and degraded.

00:37:25.971 --> 00:37:31.686
Yeah, um, so he tested his cyanide capsule on his dog oh jesus christ, what a dick.

00:37:32.286 --> 00:37:35.431
seriously, that dude was a piece of shit, okay.

00:37:35.791 --> 00:37:40.739
And then Bron, unwilling to live without him, also agreed to take her own life.

00:37:40.739 --> 00:37:45.014
Oh Lord, so farewells were exchanged.

00:37:45.014 --> 00:37:52.579
Heinz Lintz, one of the valets, recounted Ava Bron's composed demeanor as she came up and thanked him.

00:37:52.579 --> 00:37:58.538
She thanked him for his discretion regarding her husband's demise.

00:37:58.538 --> 00:38:02.333
So it was like planned that they're going to keep everything discreet.

00:38:02.333 --> 00:38:02.594
Yeah.

00:38:02.795 --> 00:38:03.076
Wow.

00:38:04.646 --> 00:38:11.402
And Joseph Goebbels also attempted to sway Hitler's decision, but ultimately chose to stay by his side.

00:38:12.023 --> 00:38:12.284
Oh really.

00:38:12.465 --> 00:38:14.532
He was like trying, like no, you can survive this.

00:38:15.626 --> 00:38:22.413
And Hitler's like no, I got to go, man, and he goes okay, I will too fine so did goblins also.

00:38:22.413 --> 00:38:24.996
He didn't kill himself he did oh, he did.

00:38:24.996 --> 00:38:26.360
That's how goblins died.

00:38:27.065 --> 00:38:43.186
I did not know that, I guess okay so hitler called upon um heinz ling for one last exchange, and ling described a frail, defeated figure who issued issued a final order suicide.

00:38:43.186 --> 00:38:58.632
Okay, so he did a final salute, a weak handshake, and hitler closed the door oh, so they did it behind closed doors they did okay so trottle young recounted the chilling silence broken by a single gunshot on April 30th.

00:38:58.972 --> 00:39:02.795
Hmm, the news was clear Hitler, eva Braun, had taken their lives.

00:39:02.795 --> 00:39:11.391
Okay, so witnessing the aftermath, rokas Misch, a bodyguard, described a slumped Hitler and Eva laying beside him.

00:39:11.851 --> 00:39:12.153
Okay.

00:39:12.925 --> 00:39:16.788
So chaos then ensued in the Fuhrer bunker Yep.

00:39:16.788 --> 00:39:18.009
So chaos then ensued in the Fuhrer bunker Yep.

00:39:18.009 --> 00:39:22.931
Some loyalists chose suicide, while others, including Trottle Young, opted for escape.

00:39:22.931 --> 00:39:28.115
On May 1st, Young joined a group, fleeing the bunker.

00:39:28.115 --> 00:39:33.639
They navigated a maze of underground passages and emerged into the ruins of Berlin.

00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:35.081
And it was in ruins.

00:39:35.181 --> 00:39:39.208
Oh yeah, that was getting bombed the fuck out of yeah ruins of berlin and it was in ruins.

00:39:39.228 --> 00:39:40.472
Oh yeah, that was getting yeah bombed the fuck out of.

00:39:40.472 --> 00:39:51.565
Yeah and young described the desperation of civilians that she saw like they were eating scraps and they, they were eating meat, um, from a dead horse that had been long dead yeah, I mean they were looking for anything.

00:39:51.606 --> 00:39:55.471
Because they didn't, the city was in fucking ruins obviously.

00:39:56.373 --> 00:40:01.659
So their escape route led through a subway tunnel filled with wounded, homeless and weary soldiers.

00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:09.179
Okay, and upon nearing a train station, the group was immediately engulfed in a hail of sniper bullets, oh shit.

00:40:09.179 --> 00:40:16.577
And somehow they fought their way through and they sought refuge in a makeshift bunker.

00:40:16.577 --> 00:40:21.489
Okay, they sought refuge in like a makeshift bunker.

00:40:21.509 --> 00:40:36.184
Okay, so hung witnessed another tragedy walter he will, a member of their group, committed suicide by gunshot and cyanide capsule yeah, they really like doing it double style yeah, yeah, don't want to make sure it happens yeah, I mean, the cyanide capsule won't kill me, this billet will, yeah, and vice versa so trottles escaped from the bunker.

00:40:36.786 --> 00:40:38.653
She wasn't like, immediately free.

00:40:38.653 --> 00:40:40.148
She was captured in berlin.

00:40:40.329 --> 00:40:51.094
Oh, she was she was by allied forces and in 1944 excuse me, july of 1945 so she made it for over a month because, or no, she left on may 1st.

00:40:51.315 --> 00:41:03.012
So two months, yeah, wow so trottle young's imprisonment began in a russian commandments uh, commandants, excuse me, a russian commandants berlin office.

00:41:03.012 --> 00:41:04.556
Okay, and it she was followed.

00:41:04.556 --> 00:41:22.945
It was followed by like solitary confinement and like a woman's prison oh gotcha so after 14 weeks she was finally questioned, and it was mainly about hitler's death well, yeah, I'm sure they were all curious yeah I mean, there's that whole conspiracy theory that he fled to argentina and blah blah blah I just wanted to make sure.

00:41:22.965 --> 00:41:24.188
Like is this really him?

00:41:24.188 --> 00:41:24.849
Is he really dead?

00:41:24.849 --> 00:41:25.791
Blah, blah yeah.

00:41:26.492 --> 00:41:35.425
So Through her captor's stories of their own suffering, Trottle starts to notice the horrors of the Nazi actions.

00:41:36.135 --> 00:41:37.219
About fucking time.

00:41:37.875 --> 00:41:44.125
So essentially a propaganda veil starts to lift and she's seeing things a little bit clearer now.

00:41:44.434 --> 00:41:52.525
Well, like her husband who wanted to get away from him, that veil has been lifted because, well, he's dead and can't keep doing it.

00:41:53.086 --> 00:42:03.208
And a lot of the senior officials are captured or killed yeah, yeah, and she was finally starting to realize, like how controlled she was yep, exactly that's.

00:42:03.369 --> 00:42:03.909
That's crazy.

00:42:03.909 --> 00:42:07.518
I mean it's funny that it took that long, but again, you're being manipulated.

00:42:07.518 --> 00:42:08.481
You're not going to know that.

00:42:08.681 --> 00:42:15.036
Yeah so another transfer led um trottle in a crowded cell with suspected spies.

00:42:15.036 --> 00:42:19.284
Her last possession her wedding ring was was stolen.

00:42:19.284 --> 00:42:21.289
Oh really, yeah, that's too bad.

00:42:21.289 --> 00:42:23.721
A cellmate also betrays her.

00:42:23.721 --> 00:42:29.355
Oh, and that led to the confiscation of her hidden poison capsule.

00:42:29.835 --> 00:42:30.458
That oh, she still had.

00:42:30.458 --> 00:42:31.018
She still had one on her.

00:42:31.018 --> 00:42:31.920
She still had one on her.

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.023
She still had one on her.

00:42:33.023 --> 00:42:34.007
Did it say where it was hidden?

00:42:34.186 --> 00:42:39.342
No, so she's fearing like deportation to Russia?

00:42:39.342 --> 00:42:44.480
Oh yeah, yeah, so um, she wasn't really important.

00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:48.704
No, but she also wasn't unimportant, like they didn't know what to do with her?

00:42:48.806 --> 00:42:53.005
Well, because she had literally an inside track to directly to Hitler.

00:42:53.005 --> 00:42:55.242
Yeah, so like, maybe she has information.

00:42:55.422 --> 00:42:55.603
Yeah.

00:42:55.603 --> 00:43:02.054
So a kind Armenian interpreter called Arkady actually becomes her lifeline.

00:43:02.054 --> 00:43:07.146
He arranges better living conditions and work in exchange for staying in the Russian zone.

00:43:07.146 --> 00:43:07.867
Oh, okay.

00:43:07.867 --> 00:43:14.648
So after an interrogation about Hitler's final days, she finally agrees to help identify other bunker survivors.

00:43:14.927 --> 00:43:15.248
Gotcha.

00:43:16.195 --> 00:43:18.182
So Jung was held in several jails.

00:43:18.182 --> 00:43:23.427
She was interrogated about her role in Hitler's entourage and the events surrounding his death.

00:43:23.427 --> 00:43:32.827
Sure, by December 1945, she was released from prison but restricted to the Soviet sector of Berlin, gotcha so she couldn't go anywhere.

00:43:32.827 --> 00:43:33.208
Yeah.

00:43:33.389 --> 00:43:34.050
Don't leave town.

00:43:34.050 --> 00:43:34.811
Yeah, exactly.

00:43:35.114 --> 00:43:43.860
So on New Year's Eve 1945, she was admitted to the hospital in the British sector for diphtheria, and she stayed there for about two months.

00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:45.364
For what Diphtheria?

00:43:45.364 --> 00:43:45.585
What?

00:43:45.585 --> 00:43:47.320
Is that I think it's a colon issue.

00:43:47.681 --> 00:43:49.860
Oh dear, she didn't have Cologuard to test it.

00:43:49.860 --> 00:43:51.347
Oh dear, she didn't have Cologuard to test it.

00:43:51.347 --> 00:43:53.219
No, I think it's.

00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:56.239
That's a weird commercial by the way, I think that is a colon issue, is it?

00:43:56.961 --> 00:43:57.362
That's all right.

00:43:58.204 --> 00:43:58.925
I'm going to look.

00:43:59.306 --> 00:43:59.768
Okie dokie.

00:44:00.675 --> 00:44:05.748
A serious infection of the nose and throat that's easily preventable by a vaccine.

00:44:05.748 --> 00:44:11.427
Oh, a sheet of thick gray matter covers the back of the throat, making breathing hard.

00:44:11.427 --> 00:44:15.778
Symptoms include sore throat, fever, swollen lymph nodes and weakness.

00:44:15.778 --> 00:44:17.864
That sounds terrible.

00:44:17.864 --> 00:44:27.293
It is the opposite of the back end so, um, while she was there, so she was in the hospital for about two months, right?

00:44:27.293 --> 00:44:37.409
So while she was there, her mother was able to secure paperwork for her, and it required her to move to the British sector of Berlin.

00:44:37.789 --> 00:44:38.070
Okay.

00:44:38.376 --> 00:44:41.010
Oh, excuse me, from the British sector to Bavaria.

00:44:41.010 --> 00:44:43.280
Oh, okay, her paperwork went through.

00:44:43.280 --> 00:45:04.079
They're going to Bavaria, gotcha, in 1946, and she traveled from berlin and across the soviet occupation zone, which was to become east germany, sure, to the british zone and then south uh, to bavaria in what is known as the american zone oh, I didn't know.

00:45:04.099 --> 00:45:14.329
We had a zone, I guess, apparently interesting yeah, so young, was held by the americans for a short time during the first half of 1946 and was interrogated about her time in the fear bunker.

00:45:14.329 --> 00:45:15.378
Of course she was.

00:45:15.378 --> 00:45:17.139
Then she's like should I write a book?

00:45:17.621 --> 00:45:20.163
I mean, I got these experiences.

00:45:20.735 --> 00:45:24.804
So she was freed and she was allowed to live in West Germany.

00:45:24.804 --> 00:45:31.619
Oh, she was Okay, yes, so, despite this attempt at normalcy, she had a ton of guilt.

00:45:31.619 --> 00:45:41.809
Well, yeah, I mean that's rightly so In 1947, so very shortly after two years Young began writing her memoir.

00:45:41.809 --> 00:45:51.989
She stated a goal was to provide an objective account, but she described Hitler as agreeable pater paternal.

00:45:53.090 --> 00:46:12.105
And she just had this kind of lingering sense of denial yeah, that makes sense yeah, she acknowledged an internal conflict, a warning voice, if you will, about hitler's true nature, which she obviously ignored right years later, the weight of her fat past was finally like hitting her okay in a 1991 interview.

00:46:12.184 --> 00:46:25.949
She recounted learning about sophie scroll sophie scroll uh, she was a young woman who bravely resisted the nazis and was executed in 1945, and this sparked a deep sense of guilt, sure?

00:46:25.949 --> 00:46:30.481
So suddenly her, her own youth, seemed like a hollow excuse.

00:46:30.481 --> 00:46:40.365
For, like her obliviousness, she struggled with depression, starting in the 1960s and initially feeling like a general life failure.

00:46:40.365 --> 00:46:45.646
She later connected it to, like, her nazi past which yeah, I mean yeah okay yeah.

00:46:46.327 --> 00:47:03.338
So the stark contrast between her innocence and the regime's atrocities like deepened her guilt, right she realizing that sophie scrolls resistance at a similar age kind of shattered her self-justification well, yeah, why didn't?

00:47:04.019 --> 00:47:05.523
why didn't I also do that?

00:47:05.724 --> 00:47:13.112
yeah, yeah so the years of self-awareness brought depression, failed therapy and like a lot of career struggles.

00:47:13.112 --> 00:47:18.746
Yeah, she also had a writing block and she was considering escaping to Australia.

00:47:18.746 --> 00:47:27.128
Oh, but the Australian authorities refused Trottle, giving her the reason as her role in the Third Reich.

00:47:27.128 --> 00:47:28.076
Well, yeah, yeah.

00:47:28.076 --> 00:47:42.164
I could have guessed that, but this is the first time after 25 years that she was met with a rejection because of her past well, that's impressive actually, because, I mean, most people would have thought that would have been a common occurrence from the rest of her life so

00:47:42.465 --> 00:48:08.182
that's, that's surprising so young, revisited her infamous unfinished memoir um adding a new perspective um with her newfound guilt oh sure she acknowledged her initial failure to be critical of Hitler, a naivety that was now more filled with shame, sure, and she didn't actively participate in the atrocities, but she admitted to enjoying her time with Hitler.

00:48:08.543 --> 00:48:08.804
Okay.

00:48:09.215 --> 00:48:12.445
And she willfully ignored the warning signs that she had within herself.

00:48:12.445 --> 00:48:17.494
Right.

00:48:17.514 --> 00:48:18.818
Like she saw the red flag and was like no, no, it's just yellow.

00:48:18.818 --> 00:48:19.378
I mean, that's just yellow.

00:48:19.378 --> 00:48:20.059
Maybe it's not even a flag.

00:48:20.099 --> 00:48:20.621
I can't tell.

00:48:20.621 --> 00:48:27.141
So trottle says, quote I withdrew and let the guilt fillings, the grief and sorrow eat into me.

00:48:27.141 --> 00:48:43.806
Suddenly I had become interesting as an eyewitness, which brought me into severe conflict with my guilt complexes, because the conversations were never about the question of guilt, only about the historical facts, so I could describe them without having to justify myself.

00:48:43.806 --> 00:48:48.704
That was something that weighed on me even more and gave me even more to think about, to think about.

00:48:48.704 --> 00:49:01.228
Today I mourn for two things For the fate of those millions of people who were murdered by the National Socialists and for the girl Trottle Humps, who lacked the self-confidence and good sense to speak out against them at the right moment.

00:49:01.228 --> 00:49:01.771
End quote.

00:49:01.771 --> 00:49:05.014
Trottle Young passed away in 2002.

00:49:05.836 --> 00:49:08.264
Wow, so she was 81, 82?

00:49:08.264 --> 00:49:08.786
Wow.

00:49:09.876 --> 00:49:24.469
Her autobiography To the Last Hour, hitler's Last Secretary, was published after her death, bummer, and obviously it serves as a chilling reminder of the seductive power of evil and the importance of self-reflection.

00:49:24.668 --> 00:49:28.157
Yeah, I mean it's got to be so.

00:49:28.157 --> 00:49:29.422
Did you read her?

00:49:29.461 --> 00:49:30.586
entire book I did.

00:49:30.586 --> 00:49:31.731
It is available online.

00:49:31.731 --> 00:49:32.032
Okay, I did not.

00:49:32.032 --> 00:49:32.675
Save is available online Okay.

00:49:32.675 --> 00:49:40.764
I did not save it because I'm a dumbass, but I will find it again and it will be in our show notes Because, yes, you can read it online.

00:49:40.764 --> 00:49:41.800
I didn't have to purchase it.

00:49:42.675 --> 00:49:44.764
So it was a pretty good read.

00:49:44.764 --> 00:49:45.878
I mean, how was it?

00:49:46.594 --> 00:49:48.340
It was kind of surface level.

00:49:48.340 --> 00:49:50.146
Okay, she's not a writer.

00:49:50.715 --> 00:49:55.036
No, she was a secretary, but what a surface level.

00:49:55.076 --> 00:50:00.730
okay, she's not a writer, no, but what she had to say was interesting, right, okay well, that's yes, it's super easy read, all right, yeah, yeah, I mean, do you find it funny too?

00:50:00.769 --> 00:50:01.958
you brought up red flags.

00:50:01.958 --> 00:50:04.103
Do you find it funny that the nazi flag was red?

00:50:04.103 --> 00:50:05.855
I mean, it was right there, folks.

00:50:06.016 --> 00:50:07.978
It's like can we be more obvious?

00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:20.784
yeah, no, that's, that's wild to be that close to, to hillar, and you know just, I don't know, that's just get entranced by his powers of manipulation.

00:50:20.784 --> 00:50:23.628
And did she ever marry again?

00:50:23.628 --> 00:50:25.239
Did it ever say anything like that, or no?

00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:26.221
oh, I didn't.

00:50:26.221 --> 00:50:28.614
That wasn't part of my research, I'm afraid that's fine.

00:50:28.775 --> 00:50:32.503
I I didn't think it was relevant, I was just kind of curious because I wonder?

00:50:32.503 --> 00:50:44.608
Because her husband was heinz, not the hans right hans young was hans young heinz was the other one yes, okay, heinz ling was that's right, um, because, yeah, because.

00:50:44.608 --> 00:50:50.481
So hans would have died pretty young too when he went to the front lines, kind of thing.

00:50:50.481 --> 00:51:02.262
But yeah, that's crazy, because having that front row seat to madness is just it's unique perspective.

00:51:02.563 --> 00:51:09.260
Yeah, I mean, she was so close she didn't see anything basically, yeah, right, and to have that?

00:51:10.061 --> 00:51:12.307
I don't know, the words are escaping me.

00:51:12.307 --> 00:51:17.461
Just that being so close to something so evil, it's like how do you not fucking see that?

00:51:18.016 --> 00:51:19.983
Or how do you not become evil yourself?

00:51:20.182 --> 00:51:33.403
Yeah, and while she kind of reflected on it, almost feeling like she kind of was in a way, obviously she wasn't, she was just a secretary that happened to be Hitler's fucking secretary, but she clearly felt bad about it in the end.

00:51:33.403 --> 00:51:36.382
But well, that's just.

00:51:36.382 --> 00:51:38.487
Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

00:51:38.487 --> 00:51:39.940
That's fucking wild.

00:51:39.940 --> 00:51:47.528
So the evil, evil Hitler and a little secretary girl, it's like fuck.

00:51:48.317 --> 00:51:50.563
Yeah, she was really pretty too, Was she?

00:51:50.563 --> 00:51:55.480
Yeah, there was a documentary where I first she yeah, there was um a documentary I where I first learned of her.

00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:56.342
Oh, okay.

00:51:56.342 --> 00:52:07.684
Um, and she testified with a judge um, in English, like she had to learn what she wanted to say in English.

00:52:07.684 --> 00:52:11.824
Sure, um, but her dictation was just so beautiful.

00:52:11.824 --> 00:52:18.525
Yeah, interesting, yeah, I sure, um, but her dictation was just so beautiful yeah, yeah, interesting.

00:52:18.545 --> 00:52:21.454
Yeah, I'll, I'll also try to find that video and and uh put it in the show notes link, that okay yeah cool.

00:52:21.454 --> 00:52:22.735
Yeah well, thank you for that story.

00:52:22.735 --> 00:52:24.878
That was, uh, very uplifting.

00:52:24.878 --> 00:52:26.420
Yeah, we're on a roll.

00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:46.516
A couple of uplifting stories in a row or so give or take, just kidding, um so to kind of recap, my lake front brewery dive beer, yes, my milwaukee lager yes a solid four oh, you upgraded yeah, I think it's a solid four.

00:52:46.617 --> 00:52:48.380
Yeah how is it?

00:52:48.380 --> 00:52:52.768
Because, uh, medello being aager, where would you put it near Modelo?

00:52:52.768 --> 00:52:54.661
Would you give Modelo a five, I guess?

00:52:54.661 --> 00:52:56.581
I would, because, I mean, I know it's your go-to.

00:52:56.755 --> 00:52:58.581
Yeah, I would give Modelo a five.

00:52:58.661 --> 00:52:59.525
Okay, fair enough.

00:52:59.695 --> 00:53:01.181
Yeah, this is smooth.

00:53:01.181 --> 00:53:02.103
I like it Good.

00:53:02.454 --> 00:53:03.476
Yeah, easy drinking right.

00:53:03.717 --> 00:53:04.518
It is Nice.

00:53:04.737 --> 00:53:09.684
Yeah, yeah, I mean don't get me wrong my founders, centennial IPA.

00:53:09.684 --> 00:53:11.228
I'm sticking with my three.

00:53:11.228 --> 00:53:17.789
Um, yeah, definitely there's ones out there that I personally enjoyed better and there's definitely worse.

00:53:17.789 --> 00:53:20.597
Yeah, so I'll I'll stick with the three on this one.

00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:26.735
All right, but uh, yeah, very good Well do you want to dedicate this episode to your dad?

00:53:27.416 --> 00:53:28.458
Yeah, let's do that.

00:53:28.458 --> 00:53:32.681
So here's to you, keith, miss you already.

00:53:32.681 --> 00:53:36.943
And this episode is to my dad because, well, he loved World War II.

00:53:36.943 --> 00:53:41.686
And here we go, cheers, cheers, dad, welp, I suppose.

00:53:41.686 --> 00:53:44.469
All right, buffoons, that's it for today's episode.

00:53:45.090 --> 00:53:48.532
Buckle up, because we've got another historical adventure waiting for you.

00:53:48.532 --> 00:53:56.603
Next time Feeling hungry for more buffoonery, or maybe you have a burning question or a wild historical theory for us to explore.

00:53:57.164 --> 00:53:58.467
Hit us up on social media.

00:53:58.467 --> 00:54:03.445
We're History Buffoons Podcast on Reddit, x, instagram and Facebook.

00:54:03.445 --> 00:54:08.061
You can also email us at historybuffoonspodcast at gmailcom.

00:54:08.643 --> 00:54:13.402
Follow us wherever you get your podcasts and turn those notifications on to stay in the loop.

00:54:13.695 --> 00:54:16.900
Until next time, stay curious and don't forget to rate and review us.

00:54:17.394 --> 00:54:19.483
Remember, the buffoonery never stops.

00:54:19.483 --> 00:54:32.579
Love it, love it.

00:54:32.579 --> 00:54:33.360
It's great.