Sept. 3, 2024

Remember, Remember

Remember, Remember
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Season 1

Have you ever wondered how a simple pint of beer can lead to a rich tapestry of historical intrigue and pop culture nostalgia? Join us on History Buffoons as we embark on a delightful journey that begins with a taste-test of New Belgium's Juice Force Voodoo Ranger IPA and Voodoo Ranger Imperial IPA. You'll find yourself chuckling at our banter over ABV confusion, the humorous quirks of beer backwash, and the daily grind of chores and mosquito battles. We dive into cherished memories, from the life-saving drama of TV's ER to the high-flying action of Top Gun and its sequel, Maverick. Plus, you'll get the inside scoop on Brad's dog, Maximus, and our excitement for upcoming flicks like the new Twisters and Gladiator 2.

Transport yourself to the turbulent times of Tudor England as we unravel the dramatic religious shifts during the reigns of Henry VIII's children. Picture a collection of Toby Jugs depicting King Henry VIII and his wives as we recount Edward VI's short rule, Mary I's fervent zealotry, and Elizabeth I's re-establishment of Protestantism. Experience the tension of succession crises and the relentless religious turmoil that shaped an era. This riveting historical narrative sets the stage for our deep dive into the Gunpowder Plot, where we discuss the roles of key conspirators and the grim fate that awaited them.

Finally, we can't resist sharing our love for the film "V for Vendetta" and its connection to Guy Fawkes. Relive the excitement of the November 5th tradition and join our spirited debate on the state of modern movies, including our anticipation for new releases like Deadpool and Gladiator 2. We wrap up with an invitation to stay connected with us on social media, share your thoughts, and keep your curiosity alive by rating and reviewing our podcast. Tune in and savor the blend of history, humor, and beer with us!

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Chapters

00:11 - History Buffoons Discuss Gunpowder Plot

12:20 - Religious Shifts in Tudor England

17:05 - Catholic Plot to Blow Up Parliament

31:23 - The Gunpowder Plot

44:54 - V for Vendetta Movie Appreciation

50:37 - Stay Curious With History Buffoons Podcast

Transcript
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Oh, hey, there, oh hey.

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How's it going, Kate?

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I'm good, I have a beer and I'm ready to open it.

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Oh, she's thirsty folks, mm-hmm, all right.

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This one is from.

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Welcome to History, buffoons.

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Oh, apparently she was jumping the gun.

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She really wanted to drink, I'm thirsty.

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So she didn't want to actually do the podcast.

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I'm Kate.

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Yeah, we went over that.

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But yeah, welcome to History.

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Buffoons, kate's thirsty, so we're going to open a beer.

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Yeah.

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What are we trying today, kate?

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Oh, oh, it smells good.

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Gonna open a beer yeah, what are we trying today, kate?

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Oh, it's called um.

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Mine is new belgium juice force voodoo ranger juice force ipa.

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Right, yes, he can read mine folks well, no, I, I I'm just sad, because that's what I wanted.

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Well, here, take here, take it.

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No, I'm kidding, it's fine.

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I have way too many cords in front of me to move.

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I like mine, so mine is the Voodoo Ranger Imperial IPA.

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It's one of their more go-to, pretty good seller.

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But yeah, we are going to try this.

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I don't think you've never tried one of those before.

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Right?

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No, this is new.

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Are going to try this.

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I don't think you've.

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You've never tried one of those before right?

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no, this is new, it's a 9.5 percent percent abv yeah and what does abv stand for?

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Obviously, I don't know, abviously obviously, this one says 9.5 percent alc yeah, so I think that stands for alcohol slash volume, because you didn't read the rest of it.

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Well, why would it not say ABV?

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Because they're being weird, I don't know.

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All right, cheers.

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Cheers.

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Oh, mine is like really citrusy.

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I know.

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That's why I like that one.

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It's really good.

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So the Juice Force is talking about probably being a little more on the hazy side, where my Imperial IPA is going to be a little more traditional IPA Maybe not traditional isn't the right word it's going to be a little more hopped up IPA because it's an Imperial.

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How about we switch halfway through?

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Yes, I would like your backwash.

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Yeah.

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I just killed that folks?

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Yeah, kate has.

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She doesn't like when people spit in front of her.

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Yeah, saliva is.

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We don't have to keep talking about it.

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I mean, I can edit it out.

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So how was your day?

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It was good, got a lot.

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Oh, sorry, I was just trying to set my beard up.

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Got a lot done around the house.

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How was your day?

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I hope you get a lot done around your house.

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You sure did, and I greatly appreciate and I know my wife does the kids try to get in the way, but uh, we greatly appreciate your help.

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Thank you for all we did today I, I am completely bit up um we have a lot of mosquitoes.

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Oh my gosh, I am so bit up.

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They really like my blood yeah, um, oddly enough, apparently they don't like mine.

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I okay.

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Or.

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I just don't notice it as much as you do.

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Do you know your blood type?

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I don't actually know.

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My dad asked me this literally like this past week Do you know your blood type?

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I'm like I have no idea what that is.

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So and then I go to my dad Do you know what the universal blood type is?

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And he didn't know.

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Okay.

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The only reason why I know is because of the band typo negative I so I learned that in massage school and science class sure makes sense throughout high school, whatever, but I mostly learned it from like watching er.

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Really, yes, I grew up on er I mean I watched anthony edwards great I mean goose yeah I can't watch that movie because he dies.

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Spoiler alert I'm sorry, it came out almost 40 years ago and I can't.

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I have watched it one time and because I knew exactly who Anthony Edwards was and how good he was in ER, I literally cannot watch that movie a second time.

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So you saw ER before you ever saw Top Gun.

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Yes.

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I always find it funny in the age difference and how weird that is to me, because I didn't go to the theater, because I wasn't that old, but I saw it shortly, not long after it came out like on video.

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Yeah, I probably saw all 15 seasons of ER before I ever watched Top Gun.

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Wow, that's.

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Yeah.

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I would say mind-blowing, but it's really not.

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Yeah, I watched it much, much, much later in my life.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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Yeah, have you seen the new one, maverick?

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No, it's pretty good.

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I mean, they're flying around in planes and blow shit up.

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Naturally, what else would you like?

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Just saying, goose, Well, his son is in the new one, or not?

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It's like Twister and the new movie Twisters coming out and it's their son and whatever.

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But it's not in Twisters.

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It's not his son.

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No, oh, who is it?

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No one.

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It's like a new version of Twister.

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Oh.

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From what I understand, at least the little bit I read on it.

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What am I thinking of?

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Where the son comes.

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Oh, gladiator, the second Gladiator.

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Yeah, that's coming out, that's going to be.

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Not his son, but it's.

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It's going to be her son, right?

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Yeah, oh my God, what the hell is his name?

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Lucius?

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Yeah, lucius is the son's name, right.

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I don't know.

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I believe your dog's named after the main character.

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My dog's name is Maximus.

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I love that movie.

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Yeah, I mean, I usually fall asleep to it.

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Yeah, I've done that a lot too, so I don't know a lot of the nuances.

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Fair enough.

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A lot of people die.

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That's fair.

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It's a good movie.

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If you haven't seen Gladiator, check it out.

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We recommend.

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I mean I recommend watching it.

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But you know, whatever Should we get into our story, I feel like we should, so this story Okay.

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So I did not know about this story until after I watched a movie.

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Which I know the movie very well.

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I'm talking about V for Vendetta.

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Love that movie.

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It is such a phenomenal movie and for the first ten times that I watched it, I I picked up on something new.

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Every time sure makes sense.

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Um, now it's just, I watch it as entertainment and well, it is a movie.

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Well, you know what I mean like, not for historical references yeah, I'm watching.

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Yeah, so before I was watching it as like oh, that's new information, like oh, okay, that's really interesting plot, dynamic, and now I'm just like, yeah, I've seen this, that was my microphone, that was my microphone, but now I'm watching it, knowing exactly, anyway, so the story.

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What are we talking about right now?

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V vendetta I know I get that um, it's a great movie.

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You should watch it.

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It's phenomenal it is not a historical document.

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It's based off of historic uh events.

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It was actually based off of a graphic novel yes, which I didn't know about for a while, for the longest time yeah, but you picked that up, that up on one of those 10 watchings, right?

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I haven't.

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I haven't booked, but it oh dear oh god, it hurts so bad.

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Well, it scratches so good, what well, you know?

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Like you scratch and itch and then you get that like immediate high afterwards your skin is all like euphoric, like oh, that was bliss.

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And then it starts her itching all over again.

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That's what I'm feeling at the moment because I just scratched it.

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So we're going to talk about the gunpowder plot of 1605.

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Yep, are you ready for this?

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I'm ready to learn some other information that I did not know, because, i'll'll be honest, obviously I know of it, but my main education also came from a fictional movie that was based off of said events.

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And yes, I'm still talking about V for Vendetta, because I love that movie.

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So good, hugo Weaving fucking amazing.

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Oh, he's so good.

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Do you remember who the other actor was who originally played V before?

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he took over.

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No, because he doesn't matter.

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I didn't ask if it mattered.

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No, because he doesn't matter.

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James Purifoy would fucking think differently.

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I don't know who that is.

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He's an actor who originally played V Anywho.

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So this plot happened in 1605.

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However, like the whole start of the story came around the time of king henry the eighth right, and he was married to Catherine.

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Five different people.

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Catherine of Aragon.

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Aragog.

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Aragog.

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It's the pincers.

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I'm sorry.

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Every time I hear Aragon in Lord of the Rings or his wife, I just think of Aragog from Harry Potter.

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I'm sorry.

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So Henry VIII wanted to catherine of aragon and marry who, and balloon, and balloon, but he couldn't no, because that's why the whole church of england was created so he was a devout catholic he sure was a lot of, a lot of people were back then.

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Yeah, and he was used to being in power.

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However, he found it quite difficult to bend his will to the papacy.

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Well, that's because the church had such power back in those times.

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Yeah.

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Everything that was done was typically for the church.

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And in order for him to get a divorce, he would literally break himself free.

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Yeah, and created the Church of England.

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He created the.

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Church of.

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England which, if I'm not mistaken, since him and every king and or queen that was the ruler, is technically the head of the Church of England, if I'm not mistaken.

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So he joined the Protestant Reformation Ooh and he denounced the Catholic Church as corrupt Yep and broke all ties to Rome in 1533.

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I like how I didn't get my way.

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You're corrupt.

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Yeah, Sounds like our government.

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So King Henry had three children, Then I want to see if you can guess what queen they came from.

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Okay.

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So his first kid was mary yeah, which that's from katherine?

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Katherine, yes his second child was elizabeth which was from anne and his third child was from was edward oh dear, give me a second.

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This is really good podcasting I'll give you a hint.

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Okay, she died during childbirth oh shit, um, yes, I know which one you're talking about.

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I'm drawing a blank on her name all the one people that are listening to us is probably like yelling at us do you know this?

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Her name is jane seymour, that's right, jane seymour.

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Fuck yeah, isn't he, isn't she the one that he actually is buried next to?

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I don't know I don't remember.

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No, I'm getting all of his wives.

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So, side note, my mother-in-law has.

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She likes to collect things from time to time and it's great because she goes all fucking in and I love that about her.

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One of her current things that she likes to collect are called Toby Jugs.

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Toby Mugs no, I'm probably fucking it up Anywho they're just basically like a head, they're a mug and they're ahead, typically of of a character.

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She's got this really cool part of her set is king henry and all of his wives and they all have like each individual one has something like one has a tower of london as a handle or something like that.

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They're're really cool.

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But I always thought that was neat because how big are they?

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Well, they come in different sizes, but hers are, like I don't know, 8, 10 inches tall.

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Like a pineapple.

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Sure, I mean completely different thing Fruit, mug, whatever.

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Well, the height of a pineapple, it's probably like a stein.

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Oh, okay.

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More or less that kind of height.

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I guess they're pretty big, but then there's a lot of little ones as well, but they're all from.

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England is where they all came from.

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So King Henry died in 1547.

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And young Edward.

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Young Edward was nine years old, yeah, and he ascended the throne, yes, however, he had guardians, oh, and they were Protestant, yep, and so, together with his guardians, he continued his father's reign of the church, but he was actually kind of a sickly child, so he and he died at age 15 yeah, he was.

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He wasn't around very.

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That's why elizabeth took over mary don't interrupt.

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Ultimately elizabeth took over, but mary otherwise do you want to talk about the story?

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I'm sorry, I thought we were supposed to interact.

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I was wrong.

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Folks, folks, stay tuned.

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So Mary ascends the throne in 1553.

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Yep.

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And she managed to maintain her Catholic beliefs despite the oppression that was happening around her.

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Yeah.

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She was completely steadfast against Protestantism.

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Because she was very devout catholic.

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Yeah, and because of the treatment of her mother right at king henry's hands, correct.

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So when mary became queen she had a severe hatred for product protestant protestantism protestantism.

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They need a better word.

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So anyone supporting the religion, whether practicing or hiding people, were considered heretics, and she had no guilt In burning them at the stake when she found them.

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Do you know what her nickname is?

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That was a question I was going to ask you.

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Oh shit, ask me your question.

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So 237 men and 52 women were executed.

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What was her?

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nickname Bloody Mary.

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Mary died in 1558.

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Yep.

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After just five years.

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Of rule.

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Not of life.

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Now enters.

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Queen Elizabeth, I Elizabeth there you go.

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The first.

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And what religion was she?

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Protestant she was.

00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.309
Yeah, she was all in on what Daddy did yeah.

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Are you getting whiplash yet?

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Protestantism Catholic Protestantism.

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I mean I wasn't, but now that you mention it, my neck hurts your neck hurts.

00:16:03.881 --> 00:16:05.248
yeah, I know, fuck.

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So in 1559, elizabeth enacted the Act of Supremacy and the Act of Uniformity.

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Okay.

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This reinstated many proclamations which had been repealed by Mary Right, so the Acts declared the celebration of Mass and other Catholic traditions illegal.

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Like what's the communion or not communion?

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Is that the right word?

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Yeah, communion, yeah Right.

00:16:32.486 --> 00:16:33.772
Yeah, okay, sorry, I just yeah.

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So that was one of them.

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That would have been Mm-hmm Okay.

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So she also.

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As part of this act of supremacy, she was also maintaining her title as Supreme Head of the Church of England Right.

00:16:45.945 --> 00:16:53.509
So these new laws also introduced fines for those who refused to attend the Church of England services.

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Oh dear, these people were known as recusants.

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Recusants.

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Yeah, that's a weird word, recusants.

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I cannot.

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I believe I've never heard that word before right now.

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So I read a book um, and it was called something Jesus Christ.

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Oh, my word.

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I'm sorry, Al.

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It's called the Gunpowder.

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Plot History in an Hour by Sinhead.

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Sinhead.

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That's how you pronounce, sinhead.

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Sinead.

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Sinead Fitzgibbon.

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Can you spell Sinhead for me, sinead.

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Sinead Fitzgibbon.

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Can you spell Sinead for me?

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Sinead, sinead.

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S-I-N-E-A-D.

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You know, like Sinead O'Connor.

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So it's pronounced Sinead.

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Yeah, okay, the gunpowder plot.

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Jesus Christ, sinead Fitzgibbon.

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Oh my God, that was fantastic.

00:17:56.464 --> 00:17:57.449
Anyway, sorry, right, janae fitzgibbon.

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Oh my god, that was fantastic anyway, um, sorry.

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So in 1570, pope pius, the fifth fucking pope, issued the papal bull that excommunicated elizabeth from the catholic church which they didn't care and it absolved all catholics of the allegiance to their queen.

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Oh, catholics had a duty to God before their monarch.

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Correct, because you know church first.

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So all Catholics were now viewed as potential traitors to the crown Correct.

00:18:31.007 --> 00:18:35.913
I'm so glad you think I'm right on everything I don't, I just know what you wrote down.

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Elizabeth feared uprising, so in a new law she denounced priests as traitors and banned them from the english shores, so catholicism is now regarded as high treason instead of just illegal.

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So this law drove catholics underground oh yeah, a ton of them some priests fled but most actually remained in england and in fact 450 additional foreign priests arrive in england for support, and 130 of those were executed for efforts to administer the catholic faith jesus isn't that why a lot of I guess I'm just remembering something off the top of my head Is this where priest holes came from, where they would hide priests?

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Did that come across your research?

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at all.

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It did not, but I could understand that pairing.

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Right.

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I'm not sure if this is where those kind of came from, but I know that was a thing where they obviously would hide them and this would make sense because of what's going on.

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But anyway, sorry.

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So Elizabeth died in 1603.

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Okay.

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And the Scottish king, james VI rose to power.

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Sure did.

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So James is the grandson of Henryry, the eighth sister.

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Yes, mary, queen of scots yes so he actually did have a legitimate claim to the throne, yes, and he was met with little opposition.

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So he was james the sixth in scotland but in.

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England.

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He's James, I Right.

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And do you know why that is?

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Tell me.

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I'm asking you.

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I didn't write it down, so tell me.

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So, for example, if there was a James before him in England, he would have been James II.

00:20:34.698 --> 00:20:38.310
Well, yes, it's just like Queen Elizabeth I.

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I thought, thought you were gonna give me some super insight I'm literally asking if you know why the numbers are what they are because there's not a james the first of england already answer the fucking question, jesus christ so the first act um that james had um was to introduce the union of crowns, and it declared scotland and england to be united under one monarch.

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Oh snap, so james was a protestant, but the english catholics thought that there would be some improvement of their fortunes as his mother was a devout Catholic.

00:21:14.653 --> 00:21:14.973
Mary.

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Yes, so initially he actually did reduce the fines on the Rikuzans.

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Mm-hmm.

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But then he realized how heavily reliant the crown was on that income.

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It's all about the money bro.

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And he reinstated the fines.

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What a dick.

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I mean I get it, but what a dick.

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I mean I get it, but what a dick.

00:21:37.728 --> 00:21:46.319
So by this time, with all the backlash, backlash, all the whiplash and the fines, and the backlash.

00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:57.325
Yeah there were several Catholic noblemen who decided they wanted to take action, hence what we're talking about.

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This action is called the Gunpowder Plot gunpowder treason and plot.

00:22:02.690 --> 00:22:06.979
So it started with just five men, yeah, and it was a plot to actually blow up parliament, correct?

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But it soon became 13 people oh yeah, lucky number 13 yeah.

00:22:13.111 --> 00:22:22.520
So who is like the face of Gunpowder Plot that you know of from your understanding of the plot?

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Guy Fawkes.

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Yes, it was actually Robert Catsby who was the chief architect of the plot.

00:22:32.705 --> 00:22:36.713
Yeah, because, like you said, originally there was five.

00:22:36.713 --> 00:22:38.478
Right, that was the first number.

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But for some reason, man, they just loved pinning it all on Guy Fawkes.

00:22:45.486 --> 00:22:52.954
So Robert Catsby grew up as a devout Catholic, okay, and he actually witnessed his father's imprisonments for practicing.

00:22:52.974 --> 00:23:20.980
Oh shit, that's fucked up so he actually was, he actually had was a fairly wealthy family okay but his wealth diminished quickly because of all the fines sure that would make sense which made him really bitter yeah, I mean, I could see how that would make him pretty pissed off so there was at one time, when queen el actually became ill, that Robert Catesby was imprisoned with other members of the eventual plot.

00:23:20.980 --> 00:23:25.636
So some of them who were devout Catholics in this plot separate from the plot.

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They were all imprisoned for fear of an uprising while she was sick.

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Ah, makes sense.

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So when she gets better, they actually get released.

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Okay, makes sense.

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So when she gets better, they actually get released, okay.

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Um.

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So robert was very well liked with his family and his friends and held considerable sway over them.

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So many of the noblemen involved in the in the plot did so out of misguided personal loyalty, like they.

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They pretty much did everything he said, sure yeah, I get that so some of the men were, uh, francis tresham.

00:24:02.208 --> 00:24:13.148
Okay, he was first cousin of catsby brothers robert and thomas winter, who are also cousins of catsby.

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So it's a family affair, all right the brothers robert and thomas winter had a brother-in-law, jesus john grant okay, so still kind of in the realm of family jack and christopher right, who are brothers, and their brother-in-law, the right brothers, thomas per Okay Ambrose Rookwood.

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Ambrose, that's a heck of a name.

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Everard Digby.

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Okay, robert Keyes, catsby's faithful servant, thomas Bates.

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Oh, good old Tom.

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And Guy Fawkes.

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Hey, there he is.

00:24:52.611 --> 00:24:53.553
And Guy Fawkes.

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The only connection that I found was that he attended school with the Wright Brothers at one point.

00:24:59.786 --> 00:25:01.049
Not from Ohio.

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What.

00:25:03.746 --> 00:25:04.669
Not from Ohio.

00:25:04.669 --> 00:25:06.174
I Wright Brothers.

00:25:06.174 --> 00:25:09.093
I'm just making sure people understand.

00:25:10.727 --> 00:25:11.671
What are you talking about?

00:25:12.965 --> 00:25:18.192
You said that he attended school with the Wright Brothers and I said not the Ohio Wright brothers.

00:25:18.392 --> 00:25:18.973
Right, because we're in.

00:25:19.054 --> 00:25:21.270
England, I know, I'm just making sure people understand.

00:25:22.285 --> 00:25:29.625
So Guy Fawkes had an extensive knowledge on gunpowder and Catsby needed that for his plot.

00:25:29.625 --> 00:25:43.428
So Guy Fawkes had spent 12 years as a mercenary in the Catholic King of Spain's army army, and in spain he went by guido fox guido, I didn't know that that's funny.

00:25:43.428 --> 00:25:58.097
Uh, good old guido so cousin tom thomas winter argued with catsby that if their plot failed it would result in an exacerbation of an already terrible situation.

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Right and Caspi declared quote the nature of the disease requires so sharp a remedy.

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End quote.

00:26:07.275 --> 00:26:07.415
Hmm.

00:26:07.435 --> 00:26:08.376
I thought that was pretty cool.

00:26:08.376 --> 00:26:09.419
Yeah, it's pretty good.

00:26:09.419 --> 00:26:14.433
So the plot's target was Parliament, so the place that had done all the mischief.

00:26:14.433 --> 00:26:22.939
Caspi proposed to use gunpowder to blow up Parliament, which in doing so would also bring down the new king and the sitting government.

00:26:22.939 --> 00:26:37.622
So, with the inevitable chaos that would happen afterwards, catesby had hoped that the Catholics would rise up and seize the power, sort of how they would imprison all these catholics.

00:26:37.622 --> 00:26:40.249
Well, elizabeth was sick for fear of uprising.

00:26:40.308 --> 00:26:58.018
well, if parliament and the king and and all the sitting government is, if they're all dead, yeah, then the catholics will rise sure, no, I, I get his rationale there, I suppose, yeah, okay so the official opening of Parliament was a year away.

00:26:58.305 --> 00:27:08.634
It was actually supposed to be held in 1604, but there was an outbreak of the plague, so Parliament got moved back a year.

00:27:08.634 --> 00:27:12.536
So they had a year to plan, essentially.

00:27:12.825 --> 00:27:14.046
I mean, I guess that helped them out a bit.

00:27:14.046 --> 00:27:14.486
Yeah, even though.

00:27:14.486 --> 00:27:15.467
I mean I guess that helped them out a bit.

00:27:15.467 --> 00:27:16.627
Yeah, even though.

00:27:16.667 --> 00:27:34.642
So originally they wanted to dig a tunnel under Parliament, but that didn't seem achievable, so they rented a storeroom in March of 1605, which was an adjacent cellar used to store firewood, and it was located directly underneath the House of Lords.

00:27:34.642 --> 00:27:44.318
So Thomas Percy, who had legitimate business in westminster, took up the least, as he would cause like the least suspicion.

00:27:44.318 --> 00:27:48.608
He was an intermediary to king james so he leased it out.

00:27:48.648 --> 00:28:05.567
So because he was in the that world, yeah, it would be less suspicious it would yes yes, I mean that makes sense, because if guy fox all of a sudden rented this place or leased this place, whatever right, like who the fuck is this guy?

00:28:06.147 --> 00:28:14.228
so, speaking of who the fuck this guy is, guido fox actually masqueraded as percy's servant and called himself john johnson.

00:28:14.228 --> 00:28:15.490
How original.

00:28:15.730 --> 00:28:18.954
John Johnson, that's his porn name, basically.

00:28:19.295 --> 00:28:22.298
And he was the one that actually guarded the storeroom.

00:28:22.298 --> 00:28:35.472
Okay, so Robert Catsby had actually owned a house across from the Thames, from Westminster, and supplies of gunpowder were ferried across the river and smuggled into the storeroom.

00:28:35.472 --> 00:28:57.636
There was actually very little talk of what happened, what would happen after the explosion, and, as catspiece really didn't see any reason why the catholics wouldn't rise up and capitalize on the uh so he just hoped yeah, there was no plan there was like no, hey, let's send out a message to these Catholics.

00:28:57.986 --> 00:28:59.211
What is up on this day?

00:28:59.211 --> 00:28:59.270
No.

00:29:00.727 --> 00:29:03.576
That's, I mean, that's some blind hope there.

00:29:03.845 --> 00:29:06.513
The only thing that they had planned was a rendezvous point.

00:29:06.894 --> 00:29:08.990
Ooh Got to get to the rendezvous point.

00:29:09.766 --> 00:29:13.340
So on Saturday, october 26th 1605.

00:29:14.125 --> 00:29:15.609
Do you know what happened on 925?

00:29:16.634 --> 00:29:22.255
Anyways, okay, september 26 if you're gonna say stuff like it, you gotta finish.

00:29:22.255 --> 00:29:24.650
You gotta say a reason why.

00:29:25.337 --> 00:29:36.815
Kate never remembers when I was born or what my birthday is, so I randomly tell her 925 a lot, anyways, good story, I should tell it at a party.

00:29:36.815 --> 00:29:38.929
So 25 a lot, anyways, good story, I should tell it at a party.

00:29:40.314 --> 00:29:42.990
So October 26,.

00:29:42.990 --> 00:29:45.531
Conspirator Tresham oh wait.

00:29:45.551 --> 00:29:46.434
Now we're on October.

00:29:46.434 --> 00:29:48.411
What happened to September?

00:29:49.146 --> 00:29:50.029
It was always October.

00:29:50.270 --> 00:29:51.355
You said 9-26.

00:29:51.925 --> 00:30:00.915
On Saturday, October 26, 1605, Conspirator Tresham's brother-in-law, who was also a cousin of Catsby.

00:30:01.217 --> 00:30:01.817
Of course he was.

00:30:02.164 --> 00:30:03.871
Is named Lord Montague.

00:30:04.673 --> 00:30:05.174
Montague.

00:30:05.945 --> 00:30:08.855
I mean Mont Eagle is how it's spelled.

00:30:08.894 --> 00:30:09.435
Mont Eagle.

00:30:10.665 --> 00:30:13.473
He received a letter from a stranger.

00:30:13.875 --> 00:30:14.215
Okay.

00:30:15.125 --> 00:30:18.278
Under the cloak of night Ooh.

00:30:18.278 --> 00:30:31.165
His servant, thomas Ward, read it out loud, okay, and it said, quote my lord, out of the love I bear to some of your friends, I have a care of your preservation.

00:30:31.165 --> 00:30:58.856
Therefore, I would advise you, as your, as you your life, to devise some excuse to shift your attendance at this parliament, for God and man hath concurred to punish the wickedness of this time, and think not slightly of this advertisement, but retire yourself into the country where you may expect the event in safety, for there be no appearance of any stir.

00:30:58.856 --> 00:31:05.576
Yet I say they shall receive a terrible blow, this parliament, and yet they shall not see who hurts them.

00:31:05.576 --> 00:31:15.007
This council is not to be condemned because it may do you good and can do you no harm for the dangerous past.

00:31:15.007 --> 00:31:23.237
As soon as you have burnt the letter and I hope god will give you the grace to make good use of it, to whose holy protection I commend you.

00:31:23.699 --> 00:31:30.816
End quote so a random person which obviously knew of what they were doing, tried to save this person.

00:31:30.855 --> 00:31:35.911
Basically, yes, wow, so this was an anonymous letter, however.

00:31:35.911 --> 00:31:41.479
However, historians believe that it was Francis Tresham because they were cousins.

00:31:41.479 --> 00:31:48.395
Lord Montague and Tresham was actually one of the more reluctant plotters.

00:31:48.696 --> 00:31:48.896
Okay.

00:31:49.425 --> 00:31:54.417
Who had some misgivings and, like I said, he was also by marriage.

00:31:54.417 --> 00:31:57.232
Yeah, related to these people Related to Lord Montague.

00:31:57.232 --> 00:32:06.352
Yeah, so the letter was never burned, as was instructed, oh, and instead it was given to several members of Parliament.

00:32:06.352 --> 00:32:07.836
Oh shit, way to go.

00:32:07.836 --> 00:32:19.611
So the servant that read the letter, thomas Ward, was a Catholic recusant and related to marriage to the conspirators Christopher and Jack Wright.

00:32:19.611 --> 00:32:21.451
It is all in the family, folks.

00:32:21.884 --> 00:32:22.890
Yeah, the Wright brothers.

00:32:24.207 --> 00:32:29.511
He figured Catsby was behind the plot and sent an urgent message to the letter Montague received.

00:32:29.511 --> 00:32:38.695
But Catsby urged onward so the king was actually given the letter on Novembermber 1st as he was out hunting.

00:32:39.317 --> 00:32:41.188
oh dear when this happened at the end of october.

00:32:41.188 --> 00:32:46.989
Okay, the king remained steadfast and waited to capture the men closer to the day of the plot.

00:32:46.989 --> 00:32:50.266
They're like, let's just see what happens and we'll we'll catch them in the act.

00:32:50.266 --> 00:32:52.929
Essentially so.

00:32:52.929 --> 00:33:01.340
The king's men swept the nearby buildings, the houses, the cellars and vaults around Westminster on the night of November 4th.

00:33:01.340 --> 00:33:04.473
They came into contact with John Johnson.

00:33:04.986 --> 00:33:06.069
Oh, good old John Johnson.

00:33:06.330 --> 00:33:06.692
Fox.

00:33:07.114 --> 00:33:07.294
Yeah.

00:33:07.765 --> 00:33:10.613
Who was guarding a large stockpile of firewood.

00:33:11.154 --> 00:33:11.776
Sure was.

00:33:12.105 --> 00:33:16.997
Hidden underneath the firewood was 36 barrels of gunpowder.

00:33:17.257 --> 00:33:17.637
Okay.

00:33:18.726 --> 00:33:25.940
The search party didn't stay very long, as Johnson claimed that he was serving Thomas Percy, who was supposed to be around Parliament.

00:33:26.080 --> 00:33:26.280
Yeah.

00:33:26.986 --> 00:33:32.397
Upon news about Percy, though, they went back to the vault to search further, because they're like what's he doing?

00:33:32.397 --> 00:33:34.451
Yeah, it seems a little suspicious.

00:33:34.471 --> 00:33:34.712
Yeah.

00:33:35.846 --> 00:33:40.288
So they actually knew that Percycy was actually a catholic agitator.

00:33:40.288 --> 00:33:43.839
So they're like this doesn't make sense, he's already against us.

00:33:44.201 --> 00:34:04.957
Let's, let's go double check let's let's investigate further so they found the stockpile and fox was arrested yep so the king asked fox why he was prepared to murder so many innocent people, and Fox replied quote so dangerous a disease required a desperate remedy.

00:34:04.957 --> 00:34:05.679
End quote.

00:34:05.679 --> 00:34:06.260
There you go.

00:34:06.260 --> 00:34:14.498
So, upon news of Fox's arrest, the rest of the plotters fled to their prearranged rendezvous.

00:34:14.498 --> 00:34:20.967
Fled to their prearranged rendezvous.

00:34:20.967 --> 00:34:24.802
Fox was beat, was brutally interrogated, but he refused to identify his fellow plotters and continued to claim his name to be john johnson.

00:34:24.802 --> 00:34:25.625
That's impressive.

00:34:25.625 --> 00:34:30.778
Yeah, so the brutality of fox was actually more of a gradual event.

00:34:30.778 --> 00:34:34.427
Okay, so there were two forms of torture that were more traditional.

00:34:34.427 --> 00:34:37.333
Then it was monocles and the rack.

00:34:38.456 --> 00:34:40.106
So the rack was a very big one.

00:34:40.106 --> 00:34:41.030
What's the monocles?

00:34:41.693 --> 00:35:07.750
so fox, who had been transferred to the tower of london, suffered from the monocles like that was pretty well known in history which is being hung by his hands for an extended period of time oh, okay, gotcha the rack, which was never confirmed that he actually received yeah, um, involved a person being stretched by the arms and legs on the large wooden frame until their limbs became dislocated correct.

00:35:07.750 --> 00:35:17.911
So on november 7th, fox caved and revealed his identity and the names of all the conspirators.

00:35:18.030 --> 00:35:19.594
Oh damn, yeah, Ratted them all out.

00:35:20.177 --> 00:35:21.851
Yeah, he was tortured pretty bad.

00:35:22.184 --> 00:35:23.744
Well, I mean torture will do that.

00:35:23.744 --> 00:35:27.215
That's why they tortured people to get information, whether it be true or not.

00:35:27.905 --> 00:35:41.067
And they found him on the 4th, and this was the 7th so several days, three days Jeez days, three days geez.

00:35:41.086 --> 00:35:52.231
So on friday, november 8th, 200 government men found the rendezvous point and a gunfight ensued, so they were all just hanging out there still, oh shit, that seems weird to me, like why would you just hang out there?

00:35:52.672 --> 00:35:57.699
some wanted to flee but but Caspi was like no, we gotta stand strong.

00:35:58.465 --> 00:35:59.731
What are you standing strong for?

00:35:59.731 --> 00:36:01.150
Your shit fucking fell through.

00:36:01.711 --> 00:36:04.112
But they don't entirely know that yet.

00:36:04.764 --> 00:36:05.688
I guess because.

00:36:05.688 --> 00:36:08.791
But how do they not know?

00:36:08.791 --> 00:36:16.726
Because they knew he got arrested and they jumped the gun to go to the Well, they knew that the plot didn't happen.

00:36:16.726 --> 00:36:17.927
Okay, yeah, okay.

00:36:18.648 --> 00:36:25.423
So many of the conspirators were shot, but all of them clung to life.

00:36:25.423 --> 00:36:44.844
Oh, casby actually managed to escape towards the inner rooms of the building that he was in and he picture picked up a picture of the virgin mary and, with the gunshot that he had, died with this picture of Virgin Mary in his arms, like devout, to the very end.

00:36:46.775 --> 00:36:50.835
That's some straight up religious, yeah, wow.

00:36:51.411 --> 00:36:55.717
Eventually only eight were sent back to London.

00:36:55.717 --> 00:36:59.096
The rest died In this gunfire.

00:36:59.672 --> 00:37:01.838
So five died because there was 13 who said right?

00:37:01.838 --> 00:37:06.239
Well, guy Fawkes was part of that.

00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:07.081
Yeah, okay.

00:37:07.889 --> 00:37:11.179
Well, guy Fawkes was still in the Tower of London, not the rendezvous point.

00:37:11.179 --> 00:37:11.780
No, I know that.

00:37:11.780 --> 00:37:17.021
So the eight that came back to London all signed confessions, of course.

00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:42.179
So at a trial in January of 1606, all of the accused were found guilty of treason and sentenced to death by hanging oh dear drawing and quartering the isn't drawn and quartered, part of the same torture or execution, I guess, to explain okay, I mean, I know what it is, but yes, the the torture, sir edward the torturer.

00:37:42.360 --> 00:38:01.161
Sir Edward Coke described the punishment Quote he shall be strangled, being hanged up by the neck between heaven and earth as deemed unworthy of both, or either, oh dear, as likewise that the eyes of the men may behold and their hearts condemn him.

00:38:02.271 --> 00:38:54.501
Then he is to be cut down alive and to have his privy parts cut off and burnt before his face as being unworthily begotten and unfit to leave any generation after him hopefully he didn't have any before that his bowels and inlaid parts taken out and burnt, who, inwardly, had conceived and harbored in his heart such horrible treason, after to have his head cut off, which had imagined the mischief, and lastly, his body to be quartered and the quarters set up in some high and eminent place to the view and detestation of men and to become a prey for the fowls of the air.

00:38:54.802 --> 00:38:55.143
Wow.

00:38:56.025 --> 00:38:56.387
End quote.

00:38:57.391 --> 00:38:58.737
All right, he was very eloquent.

00:38:59.750 --> 00:39:05.512
So they're going to get hanged, yes, but not killed.

00:39:05.913 --> 00:39:06.313
Correct.

00:39:06.934 --> 00:39:07.715
Taken down.

00:39:07.715 --> 00:39:09.396
Correct, disemboweled.

00:39:09.697 --> 00:39:10.119
Correct.

00:39:11.561 --> 00:39:12.161
Chopped off.

00:39:12.222 --> 00:39:12.641
Check.

00:39:13.643 --> 00:39:14.364
Chopped off.

00:39:14.545 --> 00:39:15.085
Privy parts.

00:39:16.530 --> 00:39:22.101
And then his head was cut off and then his body quartered to be left to the birds.

00:39:22.443 --> 00:39:25.237
Yeah, I mean that seems like a bit much.

00:39:25.237 --> 00:39:29.655
I mean, his head's already fucking cut off, he's dead, just what the fuck?

00:39:29.655 --> 00:39:33.769
Why do you have to quarter him at that point, jesus Christ?

00:39:33.889 --> 00:39:42.157
So, between the remaining men, they were going to be executed between two days, okay, january 30th and the 31st.

00:39:42.157 --> 00:40:01.652
Gotcha Fox was the last to die really poor guy so the hangman's noose actually broke his neck and he died instantly and they're like fucker so he didn't get any remaining torture lucky him.

00:40:01.731 --> 00:40:08.014
I guess because, guess, because you know, Sounds horrendous Well yeah, I mean that's fucking terrible.

00:40:09.175 --> 00:40:26.126
So King James introduced an act of parliament that declared every year, on November 5th which was the original plot Date Date, His people were to attend a service of thanksgiving in appreciation of the country's escape from such an inhumane act.

00:40:26.447 --> 00:40:28.427
Well, you know, depends on how you look at it.

00:40:30.030 --> 00:40:38.585
I guess some people believed in it so that continued until 1859, and it kind of evolved into different things.

00:40:38.585 --> 00:40:46.188
The tradition of marking the day currently is celebrated in the United Kingdom and some Commonwealth countries.

00:40:46.188 --> 00:40:59.025
Okay, the holiday involves activities such as parades, fireworks, bonfires, and children frequently carry straw effigies of fox which are later tossed into bonfires Poor guy.

00:40:59.025 --> 00:41:01.539
The holiday could also be called Bonfire Night.

00:41:02.070 --> 00:41:02.871
Bonfire Night.

00:41:02.871 --> 00:41:04.215
All right, it could also be called Bonfire.

00:41:04.474 --> 00:41:05.117
Night, bonfire Night.

00:41:05.117 --> 00:41:06.920
All right, so fast forward to 2005.

00:41:06.940 --> 00:41:07.641
Okay.

00:41:11.269 --> 00:41:14.239
There was an ITV program called the Gunpowder Plot Exploding the Legend.

00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:14.981
All right.

00:41:15.811 --> 00:41:20.599
And that's they built a replica of the House of Lords.

00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.201
Okay.

00:41:21.731 --> 00:41:24.820
And they blew it up with one ton of gunpowder.

00:41:25.451 --> 00:41:26.596
So like 2,000 pounds.

00:41:29.612 --> 00:41:30.836
The experiment.

00:41:31.269 --> 00:41:33.378
All right, I guess I'm talking to myself.

00:41:34.130 --> 00:41:39.880
The experiment showed, the explosion would have killed everybody inside.

00:41:40.181 --> 00:41:40.583
Oh really.

00:41:40.983 --> 00:41:41.284
Mm-hmm.

00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:43.958
So you said one ton of gunpowder.

00:41:43.958 --> 00:41:47.530
Is that the equivalent to what they had in 1605?

00:41:48.291 --> 00:41:49.514
I would imagine you said what?

00:41:49.514 --> 00:41:51.318
36 barrels yeah 36 barrels.

00:41:51.318 --> 00:42:03.233
I don't obviously know what a barrel of gunpowder weighs, and apparently fox's gunpowder was fairly low quality oh really but they determined that the plant would still have been that deadly.

00:42:03.373 --> 00:42:04.213
Okay, wow.

00:42:04.213 --> 00:42:09.018
So if they could have fucking pulled it off, they would have pulled it off.

00:42:09.619 --> 00:42:11.001
Well, they would have blown up Parliament.

00:42:11.001 --> 00:42:15.925
I don't know about resurrecting the Catholic religion.

00:42:22.429 --> 00:42:30.916
I find it funny because I feel like they really put a lot of faith in there and I just I don't know, I don't, you don't know which way it would have went, but I feel like how the fuck?

00:42:30.916 --> 00:42:36.898
We're like, yeah, we're gonna blow shit up and then catholics will rise up again or they're not gonna do anything.

00:42:36.898 --> 00:42:58.070
Yeah, I mean, they were persecuted a lot in england at that time, so maybe a lot of them were like let's just lay low and see what happens so do me a favor and and quote the nursery rhyme that has come about I mean I can do the beginning.

00:42:58.190 --> 00:43:01.492
Yes, and it's, it's in vig for vendetta.

00:43:01.492 --> 00:43:04.074
Well, so you can say the beginning, but there is a rhyme.

00:43:04.855 --> 00:43:13.920
Remember, remember, the 5th of November, the gunpowder treason and plot, for I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.

00:43:14.621 --> 00:43:15.721
And then it continues on.

00:43:16.041 --> 00:43:16.702
The part I don't know.

00:43:17.081 --> 00:43:21.125
Guide Fox, guide tis, our intent to blow up the king and his parliament.

00:43:21.125 --> 00:43:32.291
Three score barrels laid below to prove old England's overthrow by gold's providence.

00:43:32.291 --> 00:43:36.300
He got catched with dark lantern and burning match, a stick in his stake for King George's sake and a rope in a cart to hang Bonaparte.

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:40.112
Pope, pope, spanish pope, nobody's news is coming to town.

00:43:40.112 --> 00:43:49.878
A half penny low to feed old Pope and a penny worth of cheese to choke him, a pint of beer to drink his health and a two penny faggot to burn him.

00:43:49.878 --> 00:43:54.036
Burn his body from his head, and then we'll say old Pope is dead.

00:43:54.036 --> 00:43:56.793
Holla boys, holla, make your voice ring.

00:43:56.793 --> 00:43:58.059
Holla boys, holla.

00:43:58.059 --> 00:43:59.494
God save the king.

00:43:59.494 --> 00:44:01.317
Hip, hip, hooray.

00:44:03.989 --> 00:44:09.181
Yeah, I mean obviously again, again I learned my part that I said from the movie.

00:44:09.181 --> 00:44:13.666
From the movie I never knew there was more to it than that so uh when you told me that.

00:44:13.666 --> 00:44:19.382
I'm like really, but, and I'll be honest, the first part is way better than the second part.

00:44:20.103 --> 00:44:30.400
It's so great, but I think it also really kind of sounds better because I just picture hugo weaving, yeah, saying it, because his voice is so great.

00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:38.920
I love, I love listening to his voice in movies and that's all you see, or see, that's all you hear really is his voice.

00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.355
You don't ever actually see him in the movie because of the mask.

00:44:42.355 --> 00:44:50.217
So, like, his whole character is his voice, which makes sense because he's trying to create a voice for this whole thing.

00:44:50.217 --> 00:44:54.554
And uh, yeah, the way he says it's just fantastic.

00:44:54.554 --> 00:44:56.480
So, yeah, I was surprised that there was another part.

00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:00.675
I had no idea there was another part to that whole little nursery rhyme or whatever.

00:45:00.675 --> 00:45:01.836
Yeah, you want to call it, I guess.

00:45:01.836 --> 00:45:06.690
But yeah, I mean remember, remember the 5th of november.

00:45:06.690 --> 00:45:17.826
That's why I I watch, I'll watch it not just on the date, but I usually watch v for vendetta on- I mean I'll watch it a couple times a year like it's just so good.

00:45:17.846 --> 00:45:19.050
No, I love that movie.

00:45:19.050 --> 00:45:20.512
I remember going to see it.

00:45:20.512 --> 00:45:30.043
I was with another person at the time than my current wife and she was kind of like about it and I'm like, no, let's go.

00:45:30.043 --> 00:45:36.625
This looks to me, this looks fucking amazing and it was made by well, at the time, the wachowski brothers.

00:45:36.625 --> 00:45:42.378
Now they're the wachowski sisters who made the matrix um phenomenal movies as well.

00:45:42.378 --> 00:45:47.409
But, um, uh, I'm like let's go see this movie.

00:45:47.409 --> 00:45:48.251
This looks really good.

00:45:48.251 --> 00:45:50.155
I absolutely fucking loved it.

00:45:50.155 --> 00:45:51.318
I think she liked it.

00:45:51.318 --> 00:45:55.615
I don't care if she did, but I think she did she's no longer in the picture.

00:45:55.815 --> 00:45:56.637
no, she's gone.

00:45:56.637 --> 00:46:08.184
So I liked it so much and I tend to do this we we mentioned a gladiator at one point in our conversations, like I love that movie and I'm like I got to go see that again.

00:46:08.184 --> 00:46:10.353
Same thing Did the same thing for V, for Veneta.

00:46:10.353 --> 00:46:13.702
Um, I loved it so much.

00:46:13.702 --> 00:46:17.115
I'm like I'm going back to see that in the theater, cause I love going to the theater.

00:46:17.115 --> 00:46:25.371
That's why I wish they would make better movies again, again, like they used to.

00:46:25.371 --> 00:46:26.335
That's why I wish they made better movies.

00:46:26.335 --> 00:46:27.059
The last four years have sucked.

00:46:27.059 --> 00:46:27.740
There's been a couple gems, don't?

00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:28.001
get me wrong.

00:46:28.001 --> 00:46:34.079
Like I'm super excited for the new deadpool movie and, yes, this is dating when we're recording this, but I really don't care.

00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:41.878
Yeah, um, because they're just it's been all reboots or remakes and nothing original and so on.

00:46:41.878 --> 00:46:45.063
So, yeah, I'm like excited for a movie, for a change.

00:46:45.063 --> 00:46:46.164
It's been a while, yeah.

00:46:46.164 --> 00:46:52.938
And like, yeah, gladiator, super cool that they're finally making a second one.

00:46:53.030 --> 00:46:58.336
but it's like okay, yeah, it's like the first one was good by itself.

00:46:58.398 --> 00:46:59.443
First one was amazing.

00:46:59.443 --> 00:47:00.688
It could have been a standalone.

00:47:00.809 --> 00:47:02.637
Yeah, it should have been a standalone.

00:47:05.630 --> 00:47:06.539
Well, we can't say it should have been.

00:47:06.539 --> 00:47:07.125
We don't know that yet.

00:47:07.125 --> 00:47:07.610
Let's see what they do.

00:47:07.610 --> 00:47:23.496
Independence Day should have been a standalone that's not wrong, but yeah, I do enjoy my at least for sure, once a year viewing of V for Vendetta on November.

00:47:23.496 --> 00:47:30.072
Yeah and yeah, I I also like you watch it a few other times throughout the year too.

00:47:30.072 --> 00:47:31.016
This is just so good.

00:47:31.135 --> 00:47:34.452
I love that movie I mean, that's a movie that I can have in the background.

00:47:34.512 --> 00:47:45.170
Now I know it so well that yeah if I, if I just want some background noise, it's perfect for that, because I just know it so well and I can pop in whenever and know exactly what's happening.

00:47:45.170 --> 00:47:47.275
So, yeah, I do rather enjoy that.

00:47:47.275 --> 00:48:17.059
I did not know that there was that many people 13, right you said that were involved technically and that it started out with just the five and it grew to that and it wasn't even guy fox, he was the one, he was the first one that was caught well, and that's what all cats be that's what I also found funny, because I talked to you about that whereas, um, yeah, they, he's the face of it only because he was the first one that was caught.

00:48:18.322 --> 00:48:27.641
He literally was pretty inconsequential through the whole thing because he was just guarding the the warehouse, warehouse, was it, or whatever it was yeah, it was storeroom storeroom.

00:48:27.661 --> 00:48:42.733
That's what it was um he, he got all the gunpowder because of his standing in the in the spanish army yeah, well, I don't know if he got all the gunpowder, but no, he knew how much was needed and right, etc.

00:48:42.733 --> 00:48:44.679
Because of his history in the army.

00:48:44.710 --> 00:48:46.695
Yeah, he had some knowledge to that.

00:48:46.695 --> 00:48:51.255
Basically, oh dear, I have to go and I apologize, I know.

00:48:51.255 --> 00:48:52.400
Holy shit, stop.

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:53.101
I'm sorry.

00:48:53.101 --> 00:48:56.233
It's probably because I need another beer and my beer is empty.

00:48:56.233 --> 00:48:57.096
How's your beer?

00:48:57.096 --> 00:48:57.996
You haven't drank much of it.

00:48:58.478 --> 00:48:59.460
I like it.

00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:00.541
I've been talking.

00:49:00.541 --> 00:49:05.711
I know you can have some it.

00:49:05.711 --> 00:49:09.400
I've been talking, I know you can have some it's really good.

00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:09.722
Okay, I liked it.

00:49:09.722 --> 00:49:10.664
I really liked it actually.

00:49:10.664 --> 00:49:15.215
Well, yeah, so, like that's, one thing we like to do is try some different beers.

00:49:15.215 --> 00:49:17.820
We tell our thoughts on it when we're podcasting.

00:49:17.820 --> 00:49:21.956
We enjoy beers, nice and citrusy.

00:49:21.956 --> 00:49:22.538
Yeah.

00:49:22.697 --> 00:49:24.143
It's not super IPA.

00:49:31.070 --> 00:49:31.713
Typically Happy, nice and citrusy.

00:49:31.713 --> 00:49:32.355
Yeah, it's not super ipa, uh.

00:49:32.355 --> 00:49:41.440
Typically uh hazier type ipas won't be okay, whereas, like mine, being an imperial ipa is definitely going to be on the more hop forward part of it, where yours is going to be more of that juicy, citrusy yeah uh, flavor, I guess.

00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:46.090
But uh, I'm glad you like it though, because I know you're not a huge ipa fan.

00:49:46.090 --> 00:49:47.914
You like some of them that you've tried.

00:49:47.914 --> 00:49:49.298
That you told me, but I know you're not.

00:49:49.298 --> 00:49:52.474
You like your well, medello and stuff like that.

00:49:52.635 --> 00:50:01.876
I've got a medello on my table next to me next to your other beer and these are the what, the 19.2, right, I believe, size.

00:50:01.876 --> 00:50:05.639
Let's look, this is great.

00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.284
One pint, yep, 19.2.

00:50:08.284 --> 00:50:12.615
So these are the big beers, single serve beers, but they're good.

00:50:12.615 --> 00:50:20.693
No, I, I like the buddha ranger and I know we've tried the bells, which is part of their the same family nowadays.

00:50:20.773 --> 00:50:37.733
So yeah but yeah, we'll get to that possibly well well I suppose I suppose all right, buffoons, that's it for today's episode buckle up, because we've got another historical adventure waiting for you.

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