March 17, 2025

Sing Us Out Cher!: Elizabeth Bathory Part 1

Sing Us Out Cher!: Elizabeth Bathory Part 1
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The name Elizabeth Bathory evokes images of horror and blood-soaked legends, but behind the macabre reputation lies a fascinating historical figure shaped by the tumultuous forces of Renaissance Europe. Born in 1560 to a powerful Hungarian noble family, the woman who would become known as the "Blood Countess" navigated a world caught in the violent struggle between the Habsburg Empire and Ottoman Turks.

From an early age, Elizabeth's life defied conventional expectations. Exceptionally educated and fluent in four languages, she suffered from what was likely epilepsy – a condition her family kept secret to avoid supernatural accusations. Growing up in a society where violence was normalized and brutality commonplace, she witnessed regular punishment of servants and the harsh realities of noble authority.

When just fifteen, Elizabeth married Count Ferenc Nádasdy, uniting two influential families in a political alliance. Remarkably, she maintained her prestigious Bathory name, hinting at her family's extraordinary status. Her husband soon departed for years of warfare, leaving the teenage Elizabeth to independently manage their extensive estates – a responsibility at which she apparently excelled.

Perhaps most surprisingly, historical records reveal zero complaints from peasants under her rule – unusual for any noble of the era. While her husband gained notoriety for brutally torturing Ottoman prisoners, Elizabeth provided medical care and supported war widows, suggesting a more complex character than her infamous reputation indicates.

The Blood Countess's story unfolds against the backdrop of Transylvania's unique position as a semi-independent state caught between empires but pioneering unprecedented religious tolerance through the Edict of Torda in 1568. This contradictory world of extreme violence and progressive ideas helped shape the woman whose name would become synonymous with legendary cruelty.

Join us for this two-part exploration as we separate historical fact from lurid fiction and examine the complex reality of Elizabeth Bathory's life and times. Subscribe now and follow us on social media @HistoryBuffoonsPodcast to continue this dark journey into one of history's most misunderstood figures.


Tale of the "Blood Countess": Elizabeth Bathory

By Reading the Past

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngI5EWC8zXw


Elizabeth Bathory - The Blood Countess Documentary

By The People Profiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UqXtGDLiLA&t=253s


The bloody legend of Hungary’s serial killer countess

By Ronan O’Connell

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/the-bloody-legend-of-hungarys-serial-killer-countess




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Chapters

00:00 - Show Introduction & Beer Tasting

05:10 - Introducing Elizabeth Bathory, The Blood Countess

09:00 - Hungary's Political Landscape & Power Struggles

18:00 - Transylvania Between Empires

25:10 - Elizabeth's Marriage & Early Life

32:20 - Running Estates While Her Husband Fought

36:45 - End of Part One

Transcript
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I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky.

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I think about it every night and day.

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Oh hey there, what the hey, oh hey there, oh hey there, oh hey there, oh hey there, don't you know?

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Oh hey over there.

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Oh hey over there.

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My neighbors would hate me if I did that all the time.

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Well, let's keep doing it.

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Oh hey over there.

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Oh hey over there.

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That was a lot of oh hey there's.

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I'm Kate and I'm Bradley.

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And this is.

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History, buffoons History, buffoons the.

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History Buffoons.

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Yes, miss Moneypenny, yes, we are the History Buffoons.

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Thank you for joining us today on this oh, you're welcome.

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Wonderful podcast episode.

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I don't know if kate is fully into this yet I feel a little loopy well, that's called life, that's called my every day I know why don't we talk about the beer we're going to try today?

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Oh yeah, go ahead, I'm dancing in my chair.

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So we got a beer that we're both going to try.

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A lot of times we get each individual beer.

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We got a beer called Lagerado from Odell Brewing Company, based out of Colorado, which is my well.

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Oh, it's from Fort Collins.

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Yeah, that's where my brother's family lives.

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I know.

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Thereabouts.

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Thereabouts.

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They recently moved, but oh did they.

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They're still in the area, but it's like a smaller town, yeah, something like that.

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So this is a uh, as the name implies lagerado.

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It's a crispy lager I don't know where that came from I wish it would have never showed up.

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Loggerado.

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Loggerado, high Rocky Mountain, high Loggerado.

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No, I was singing the Ford song.

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I'm well aware of what you're trying to sing.

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I was doing the John Denver song.

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Oh, I don't know that Rocky Mountain High.

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Loggerado.

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I'm sure you would if you actually heard it.

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Lagerado is a thing no, it's the name of this beer, but but it's in a song.

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No, I was changing it from colorado to lagerado oh you, you pulled it off really well.

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Thanks, you're welcome, it's my many years of john of John Denver impersonating that helped me with that.

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I'm a share impersonator, wow.

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Okay so the beer can says.

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We've heard the lore of LaGarado, that place where we take it easy and keep it crispy.

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When you're here, every story has a chance to be a tall tale.

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So does that mean it's fake?

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yeah, it's a fake beer.

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What am I even holding?

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What is this air?

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It's a really pretty.

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Can I like the coloring?

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I like the mountainscape, the trees, and greens and yellows it's really pretty, so I like it.

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It's a mountainscape, cheers cheers yep, that's a Lagerado.

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Oh, that's crispy, just like the can said.

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Didn't disappoint.

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It's citrusy.

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I mean a little bit.

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I guess I like it.

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It's not bad, do you like it, I do, I don't know I do.

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Okay, do you like it?

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I do, I don't know I do okay, I'm having also an old, older beer from when we were in kentucky yeah, we still have some, uh, the cougar bait from country boy brewing.

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It's a blonde ale, so it's a little bit heavier yep and so when I was switching between the two, it was different in my mouth I get it and I have my also from Country Boy Halfway Home American Pale Ale, because we tried that on the last episode but we still had some left over.

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So we got backups, backups, back it up.

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You want to know something.

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I do.

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I don't have a question for you.

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Well, that seems uncharacteristic of you, I know but it's probably going to be a longer episode.

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I gather that How's that go, or a two-parter.

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This could potentially be a two-parter.

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Yeah, we'll kind of determine that We'll figure that out.

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I don't know.

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I mean it's up in the air.

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There's some backstory, yeah, which every story has.

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Yeah, we'll figure that out.

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I don't know.

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I mean it's up in the air.

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There's some backstory, yeah, which every story has.

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Yeah, there's some burps.

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This one seems to have a lot of backstory.

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Sure.

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Is it necessary?

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I don't know, but we're going to find out.

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Well, let's dive in deep to this.

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You actually know this topic.

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I know what do you mean.

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You know, did you cheat?

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I did not cheat.

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Did you look at my notes?

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I knew I can fuzz it to her.

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What did you do?

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I created a document on her drive and I happened to see the first thing that was on there.

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You butt, I let it be, I didn't dive in past that, but well, because this topic is something I gave you one of our first, probably recommendations yeah, one of the first ones.

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I said, hey, let's do a story, and let's put it off, and put it off, and put it off, because there's a lot of backstory there really is and the cool thing is, I know of this.

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Okay, don't be mad, because I accidentally saw it.

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That wasn't my intention.

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I happened to create a document on our drive to show you something which I showed you earlier, and I just happen to see that damn it um, but uh, I know some.

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I don't know a lot sure wow, this blows what he doesn't know is we're gonna talk, talk about Dante's Inferno Boom, boom, boom.

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He's speechless.

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Why are you so quiet?

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Waiting for you to go.

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Because you want to know about Dante's Inferno.

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Yes, that's fine, I'm not going to talk about it.

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Okay, jesus Christ, anywho.

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Okay, so he knows now that we're going to talk about the Blood Countess.

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Yes, elizabeth Bathory, is that how you're supposed to say it, as far as you learned?

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So I heard elizabeth battery which is the american probably.

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I'm pretty sure I've heard of elizabeth right yep battery sure like a battery in your phone right I like how you went to battery in your phone as opposed to any other thing that can use batteries.

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I thought car said phone, car battery remote control, I mean either way television remote.

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I was called the channel changer growing up.

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I used to have to go over to our giant box of TV.

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Yeah, hey, brad, go to channel six.

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Yeah, you were the channel changer.

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Yeah, pretty much, because back in the day, remote controls were a newfangled thing and you went old school and said, hey, kid channel now.

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Okay, I've also heard Airzabet.

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I've heard that before.

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Actually Airzabet Battery.

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Okay, I've also heard um air is a bet.

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I've heard that before.

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Actually there's a bet that battery.

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Okay, so it's spelled B A T H O R Y, right, but in Hungary it kind of separates B A T from.

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H O R.

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Y so battery.

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Sure Okay, so blood countess.

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Yes, why so blood countess?

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Yes.

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Why.

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Because she used to bathe in the blood of virgin females to try and make herself young and or reverse aging basically yes, yes, that is the theory Correct.

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Yes, so she was born August 7th 1560 in Hungary.

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All right, and she was born into like a super powerful family.

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Yeah, they were pretty high status right.

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They were, and for good measure, despite the ironic nature of this.

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As you will figure out, her last name, Bathory, means good hero, oh jeez.

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I guess that depends on what side you look at.

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Oh dear so her parents were actually cousins oh yes, first they were both like part of the battery family, just in different like lineages.

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Okay, so they are cousins gotcha, I did not know that but that was kind of a thing back then well, yeah, especially in families of power.

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I guess we'll call them yeah, exactly yeah um.

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She grew up in a castle whose name I can't pronounce.

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Um, I'm not surprised exit what is?

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how do you spell it?

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e-c-s-e-d e-c-s-e-d exit exit-C-S-E-D Exed Exed I like either one.

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Exed Castle, okay, and she was actually really really smart, was she?

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Yes, okay, her parents made sure she got like a top-notch education.

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She was fluent in Hungary, obviously, latin, greek and German.

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Oh, wow, yeah, so she also dealt with seizures and headaches, oh dear.

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So eventually they presumed it was epilepsy, but back then they didn't really understand that, of course, and they honestly thought that it was something spooky.

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Something sinister.

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Yeah, something sinister as a foot.

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From the great beyond.

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Exactly, okay.

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So they thought it was kind of supernatural.

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So they actually kind of kept it hush hush in the family.

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Well, yeah, because they don't want to ever be burned as a witch or something.

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Yeah, which they maybe should have.

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That's also a thing, but Elizabeth was living in a time when things were changing.

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It was called the Renaissance.

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Renaissance, renaissance yeah.

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On one hand, she's getting getting this proper education for a woman.

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Plus she's navigating a religious shift with the Protestants and the Catholic Church Right.

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So her life is a bit of a mixture of new world and old world.

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Was it pretty Catholic in Hungary?

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Yes, was it?

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Yes, okay.

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And she also grew up in a time where violence was fairly normal?

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well, I mean, because what, what, what year did you say she was born again?

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I'm sorry 1560 so she was what 60, 80 years before, like after uh dracula roughly lord, have mercy.

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Let's look at vlad the impealer.

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Don't you know?

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Don't you know.

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Let's look at vlad the impealer.

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He used 1431.

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He was born okay, I was a little bit off, I'm sorry yeah, 1431 130 years and I mean look what he did, and that's when he was born, so he was obviously up until the.

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I guess I was probably going more towards the later part of his life, but yeah, I mean.

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He Vladimir Peeler.

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Don't you know.

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He was assassinated in December 1476.

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1476.

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Okay, fair enough 31 to 76.

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Okay.

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Okay, okay, okay.

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Don't you know, don't you know Vladimir Peeler.

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So violence, right, she had seen lots of shit.

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She saw servants getting whipped, people from lower classes getting all sorts of punishments.

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Right Back then they just didn't see violence as the way we do now.

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Obviously it was kind of desensitized.

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Well, it was pretty normal.

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Yeah, whipping was standard and they chop off your hand for stealing and if you're a woman suspected of witchcraft or acting unwomanly quote unquote they would burn you at the stake like steak and shake or that's actually not great.

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I mean, the steaks, the shakes are good, but you've been there, I've never been yeah, it's an illinois thing.

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Well, I mean okay anyway.

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So they were burned at the stake or drowned for being unwomanly.

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Oh dear um.

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So treason also, um twisted torture methods designed to cause, like maximum maximum, maximum, maximum, maximum pain before killing you um, so, yeah, so they, they did a lot of twisted shit, for sure.

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So oh, to make it like a little cherry on top, it was her family that was doing this.

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Well, right, because they were the family of power.

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She was powerful, right, so she was a countess.

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Did her parents have the similar title?

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What were they?

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They were baron and baroness.

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Okay.

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So she actually had like a full family.

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So her uncles were one of the highest ranking officials in Transylvania and she's chief justice of Hungary.

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Okay.

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Another married the queen of Poland and became king of Poland.

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His name is Stefan Bathory.

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Okay and a couple of her cousins were end up princes of Transylvania.

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Oh really.

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So like it's all in the family.

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So they weren't like your average rich nobles they own.

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They did own land, like all over the place modern day hungary, slovakia, romania and they weren't just comfortable, they were very rich I didn't know that that denoted being very rich, wow.

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So they ended up lending money to the Austrian Habsburgs.

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And who are they?

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So they are a very, very, very powerful, long-standing family.

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Okay, how long were they in power for?

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Over 600 years.

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Holy shit really.

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Yeah, save like five.

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Wow, yeah, like there was this little stint in the middle, I don't know what happened?

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Yeah, a little hiccup, but they came back Fair enough.

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Yeah, so they were like the royal family in Europe, wow.

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I'm sorry, what was their name?

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Again, real quick.

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Habsburgs H-A-B-S Habsburgs.

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I feel like I've heard of that, but I'm not bringing it up, I mean 600 years.

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Well, right.

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And that's why I'm like I know, I've never heard of them.

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I don't know, I don names, just reminded me of something else or if I've actually heard them, but you would think they've been in power for 600 years, with a little hiccup in the middle.

00:15:51.674 --> 00:15:52.638
It was like 636 years.

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Shit, yeah, that's crazy.

00:15:53.278 --> 00:16:10.461
Yeah, so they were in austria with vienna as their capital, and then for a little bit during like elizabeth's time, they um that, they partook in prague for a little bit, okay, but they basically produced kings for Hungary, spain, portugal, like you name it.

00:16:10.461 --> 00:16:17.524
They controlled all the little colonies too, okay, so they were also super clever, okay.

00:16:17.544 --> 00:16:26.801
They got power through fighting wars and marrying into other royal families Right, and all the marrying into families was not great for the gene pool.

00:16:27.166 --> 00:16:36.033
Well, no, because when you start to, there's a really good Nirvana album called Incesticide.

00:16:36.033 --> 00:16:38.376
Anyways, yeah, no.

00:16:40.445 --> 00:16:46.466
The Habsburgs actually came up with a serious health problem called the hapsburg jaw is that?

00:16:46.485 --> 00:16:50.176
that's like really really long chin, like all legit, okay.

00:16:50.176 --> 00:16:55.152
Is jay lenoa secretly a hapsburg?

00:16:55.152 --> 00:16:56.575
No, okay.

00:16:56.575 --> 00:16:59.399
So now that you bring that up, yes, I do know of them.

00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:01.850
I know of one in particular, if I'm not mistaken.

00:17:01.850 --> 00:17:10.057
I could be wrong or whatever, but yes, okay, that makes sense yeah, so during elizabeth's life, the habsburgs were at their peak right.

00:17:10.117 --> 00:17:12.049
Yeah, so they were sorry.

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They were basically running the holy roman empire.

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And then, um, even though the holy roman emperor was technically elected, they were all elected by the elite.

00:17:23.576 --> 00:17:26.307
Yeah, so they were always elected.

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Imagine that, ha ha well they already own so much of the empire.

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Why not just be the emperor you know?

00:17:32.925 --> 00:17:41.577
well when they're that powerful and that many people probably follow them and whatever it's pretty easy to get elected for that, so that makes sense but they're like batteries.

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Batteries were like hobnobbing, elbow rubbing yeah, like with all these people going to the same parties yeah I mean some balls and shit balls, I mean square dances, I mean something I don't know, the square dance back then I don't.

00:17:58.833 --> 00:18:02.256
I like the round balls over square dancing.

00:18:02.256 --> 00:18:07.961
So the Holy Roman Empire.

00:18:07.961 --> 00:18:15.393
That was one of the weirdest exchanges we've ever had on here Square dancing, but the ball is around.

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No, I got it, I got it.

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If people could have seen your gestures, I guess that would have been weird.

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Maybe we shouldn't take this video.

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Well, luckily we haven't started video yet.

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You are so welcome people.

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So the Holy Roman Empire covered a ton of land Germany, austria, parts of France and Italy and a bunch more and they thought they were the real deal and they were super serious about punishing their Catholic beliefs on everybody.

00:18:51.078 --> 00:18:56.682
But then there was this whole Martin Luther putting up like Protestants, all that.

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Yeah, he put up a 95 thesis which was written in 1517.

00:19:00.964 --> 00:19:06.332
I think it was up against a Catholic church, Was it?

00:19:06.332 --> 00:19:07.851
It was in Germany.

00:19:08.885 --> 00:19:09.824
He's from Germany, yeah.

00:19:09.965 --> 00:19:14.990
Yeah, so basically it argued salvation through faith alone, right?

00:19:14.990 --> 00:19:21.846
So all this Protestantism and Catholicism were clashing?

00:19:21.846 --> 00:19:22.392
Yes, thank you.

00:19:22.392 --> 00:19:23.884
Now, if you were Catholicism-tisms and Catholic-tisms were.

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Clashing yes, thank you.

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Now, if you were a country like Hungary, smack dab in the middle of all of this, you were basically at the mercy of the Roman Empire and the powerful Habsburgs.

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Sure.

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And they could do pretty much whatever they wanted.

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And to make things worse, after 1453, from the west, they were also another big threat looming in the east.

00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:51.320
Who was that?

00:19:51.320 --> 00:19:54.012
Well, that is, the Ottoman Turks.

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Damn right, it is.

00:19:55.417 --> 00:19:55.638
Yes.

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The Ottoman Empire.

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Hungary was getting squeezed from all sides.

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Yeah, they were in a very bad position they were for them and the Habsburgs were always meddling, and then the Ottoman Turks were constantly trying to like invade Hungary and it pretty much affected Elizabeth's life and I will kind of dwell on that a little bit farther down okay.

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Um, but then back in 1490, hungary lost their king, matthias Corvinus.

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Corvinus.

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Mm-hmm, and at the time, the Ottoman Turks took Constantinople, which is Istanbul.

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Right.

00:20:33.244 --> 00:20:36.915
But if you're in Constantinople, you're actually in Istanbul.

00:20:36.915 --> 00:20:39.452
But if you're in Istanbul, it was Constantinople.

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Here's a song Istanbul was Constantinople, now it's Istanbul.

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Istanbul is Constantinople, now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.

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So if you've a date in Constantinople, she'll be waiting you, istanbul.

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Who's it by?

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Fuck, if I know You've never heard that.

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No, oh well, because I made it up, ain't I brilliant.

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So the Ottoman Turks, turks?

00:21:02.508 --> 00:21:04.154
No, oh well, because I made it up, ain't I brilliant.

00:21:04.154 --> 00:21:12.795
So the Ottoman Turks, turks, turks took Constantinople, which is now Istanbul.

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Did you know there's a song about that?

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Anyways, oh, my face hurts from laughing.

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This is serious business.

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This is a serious story, all right.

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Turks Istanbul, constantinople.

00:21:35.845 --> 00:21:41.416
So King Matthias had built this really strong army to protect Hungary.

00:21:41.698 --> 00:21:43.471
Okay, but he fucking died.

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Did they say what he died of, or do you not have?

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No, I don't have that, but things went downhill pretty fast after that because it seemed like, was that like all of a sudden kind of I think thing for him?

00:21:54.938 --> 00:21:55.806
yes, was it?

00:21:55.806 --> 00:21:56.828
Yes, but I don't remember.

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I don't I don't think I read, no, that's all right, um.

00:21:59.455 --> 00:22:03.712
So they started picking, picking like weak kings.

00:22:03.712 --> 00:22:06.818
So the nobles would have more power.

00:22:06.818 --> 00:22:09.049
Oh, but that backfired.

00:22:09.371 --> 00:22:09.853
How come?

00:22:10.845 --> 00:22:20.661
Suleiman the Magnificent, a Turkish ruler, saw his chance and took a huge chunk of Hungary after winning a battle in 1526.

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And they also burned down a town called Budaha buddha and killed the hungarian king the, the one after matthias?

00:22:31.171 --> 00:22:38.606
yes, okay so hunkery was basically like a fucking royal rumble for a for the throne.

00:22:38.606 --> 00:22:39.648
Sure, okay.

00:22:39.648 --> 00:22:44.298
So after the king got, it was a freaking free-for-all.

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You had Ferdinand I, the Austrian Archduke, who is basically a Habsburg big shot wanting Hungary for his empire.

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Then you had Janos Zapolya, who was a guy running Transylvania and leading what was left of the Hungarian army, and then Ferdinand was throwing his raid around saying, hey, I'm related to the last king my brother's the Holy Roman Empire.

00:23:15.056 --> 00:23:16.798
Nope Emperor, there it is.

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Yeah, but the Hungarian nobles were completely split, so even the battery family couldn't agree.

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Elizabeth's mom.

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What was her name?

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Did you have that?

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I don't recall if you did.

00:23:32.729 --> 00:23:33.351
I don't.

00:23:33.550 --> 00:23:34.794
That's okay, I was just curious.

00:23:35.115 --> 00:23:38.789
I think it's Anna, anna and George, I think, were her parents.

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That's so.

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Generic.

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Yeah.

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So was Elizabeth.

00:23:43.705 --> 00:23:44.909
I like the name Elizabeth.

00:23:45.108 --> 00:23:45.430
I do too.

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It's my middle name I know Anyways.

00:23:48.176 --> 00:23:53.535
So Elizabeth's mom sided with Janos Janos.

00:23:54.656 --> 00:23:55.117
Janos.

00:23:55.244 --> 00:23:58.075
Like her side of the family sided with Janos.

00:23:58.075 --> 00:23:59.529
Is that like Thanos' cousin?

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Yeah, he was the guy running Transylvania, okay, and what was left of the Hungarian army?

00:24:06.273 --> 00:24:10.932
Okay, but then her dad's side, the ex-sed.

00:24:10.952 --> 00:24:13.798
Yeah, that guy Batteries yes.

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Went with Ferdinand hoping he'd help them fight off the Turks.

00:24:19.457 --> 00:24:20.137
Okay, sure.

00:24:21.145 --> 00:24:26.125
Basically, they had two kings running around each other, each holding their own group of supporters Right.

00:24:26.125 --> 00:24:46.637
And then Elizabeth's dad, mr George, switched sides and went to Janos because his wife's brother, his brother-in-law, was getting pretty powerful, wow, and maybe thought it was a good idea to help boost the batteries by being with someone who was getting pretty powerful.

00:24:46.758 --> 00:24:50.575
Sure, I mean, especially back then, it was all about positioning yourself.

00:24:51.224 --> 00:24:56.655
Yes, but the Habsburgs who George was with originally, not happy.

00:24:57.037 --> 00:24:57.919
Well, why would they be?

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He just jumped ship.

00:25:00.566 --> 00:25:01.087
He did.

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So you know what they did they took his castle.

00:25:04.472 --> 00:25:04.653
Oh shit.

00:25:05.486 --> 00:25:06.269
You have no home.

00:25:08.969 --> 00:25:11.568
We kick you out, but at the time.

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So he got evicted.

00:25:12.772 --> 00:25:13.474
He got evicted.

00:25:13.474 --> 00:25:21.390
But George was like nana, boo-boo, and he married.

00:25:21.390 --> 00:25:35.636
Anna was that a direct quote elizabeth's mom okay, well, yeah, remember they were cousins, that's right and their cousins split, and so they married each other and they're like, look what I'm going to do.

00:25:35.656 --> 00:25:37.240
Hey cuz come here.

00:25:39.066 --> 00:25:43.711
So the batteries were united, but made some pretty powerful enemies.

00:25:43.711 --> 00:25:44.967
So did, did Anna?

00:25:45.008 --> 00:25:45.671
have a say in this.

00:25:45.671 --> 00:25:48.229
I don't know.

00:25:48.229 --> 00:25:49.796
Okay, just curious.

00:25:49.796 --> 00:25:51.845
All right, anyways.

00:25:52.526 --> 00:25:54.289
So Janice's reign was.

00:25:54.289 --> 00:25:56.797
Reign was like a roller coaster.

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There were peasant revolts, oh dear, ferdinand grabbing part of Hungary and a risky alliance with the Turks yeah.

00:26:03.444 --> 00:26:10.414
Then Janos died, oh dear, and Hungary got chopped into three pieces.

00:26:11.577 --> 00:26:11.958
Oh really.

00:26:12.444 --> 00:26:20.853
Habsburg Hungary, oh sure, ottoman Hungary, hungary, okay, and transylvania when did transylvania turn into romania?

00:26:21.113 --> 00:26:21.513
I don't know.

00:26:21.513 --> 00:26:22.998
Was that not a part of your research?

00:26:23.286 --> 00:26:24.428
no, why would it have been?

00:26:24.428 --> 00:26:25.250
I don't know I just.

00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:28.778
When did transylvania become a part of?

00:26:29.827 --> 00:26:32.317
is that the sequel to your uh istanbul song?

00:26:32.317 --> 00:26:34.237
Wow, is that the sequel to your Istanbul song?

00:26:37.728 --> 00:26:41.893
Wow, it wasn't until 19, 1920.

00:26:42.534 --> 00:26:43.715
Really that, really?

00:26:43.715 --> 00:26:46.659
I guess I never knew that clearly, cause I asked.

00:26:47.681 --> 00:26:50.270
Yeah, that was, I knew it was modern.

00:26:50.490 --> 00:26:54.267
Quote unquote modern times but I didn't realize it was that yeah, wow Okay.

00:26:54.267 --> 00:26:55.208
Yeah, wow Okay.

00:26:55.308 --> 00:27:05.459
Yeah, so let's talk about the world of Elizabeth Bathory, how, what she was born into, specifically Transylvania.

00:27:05.459 --> 00:27:08.162
It was kind of like an in-between zone.

00:27:08.162 --> 00:27:16.075
Yeah, they had their own princess, but then the princess were basically playing both sides, trying to keep the Ottoman Turks and the Hab, the habsburgs, happy.

00:27:16.355 --> 00:27:23.354
Yeah, and it was like a constant balancing act okay and her life was was shaped by these two big forces.

00:27:23.354 --> 00:27:35.557
So you had the military stuff with the turks and then you had the political games with the habsburgs, since they wanted control of hungary, and despite all the chaos, transylvania was actually doing really well.

00:27:35.557 --> 00:27:50.548
The princes, her cousins, basically had a constitution and they were supposed to represent these three main groups the Hungarians, the Saxons and the Skelzers the Skel, the Skel.

00:27:53.907 --> 00:27:54.568
I believe in you.

00:27:54.970 --> 00:27:55.911
Zellkers.

00:27:56.712 --> 00:27:57.473
Zeklers.

00:27:57.554 --> 00:27:59.537
Zeklers Wow.

00:28:00.739 --> 00:28:06.317
Zeklers, and you started with the other thing Seltzers, seltzers.

00:28:06.317 --> 00:28:08.295
Remember, you're banned from having those.

00:28:08.596 --> 00:28:17.017
Yes, so, even though they were stuck between the Muslim Turks and the Catholic Hasburgs, Transylvania was pretty chill when it came to religion.

00:28:17.217 --> 00:28:17.458
Sure.

00:28:17.518 --> 00:28:24.757
They were pretty tolerant and a lot of the nobles and many of the princes were actually Calvinist Protestants.

00:28:25.018 --> 00:28:25.278
Okay.

00:28:26.066 --> 00:28:29.736
And Protestantism was basically thriving there.

00:28:30.056 --> 00:28:30.277
Right.

00:28:30.986 --> 00:28:59.636
So they had this thing called the Edict of torta in 1568, which basically says that everyone could practice their own religion oh, so like the way the world should be exactly weird so it was actually the first time in christian europe that they legally guaranteed like religious freedom wow, that's pretty progressive for that time yes, because I mean they used to push religion everywhere, yes, everywhere so of course, the batteries yes, they were a big deal, right.

00:28:59.817 --> 00:29:06.593
Of course, steven cousins steven battery, one of our uncles, became the first battery prince in 1571.

00:29:06.593 --> 00:29:14.619
Okay so yeah, transylvania was like this unique place, kind of caught between empires but also forward thinking in many ways.

00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:20.519
Oh really, so under the batteries, transylvania was trying to be its own thing.

00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.244
I really want to watch dracula after this.

00:29:22.244 --> 00:29:30.508
I know me too I know right so it was basically a semi-independent state okay okay, so dracula and then nosferatu.

00:29:30.508 --> 00:29:36.798
Yes, like or nosatu, we have to watch the Demeter ship movie.

00:29:38.086 --> 00:29:38.770
What was that called?

00:29:38.770 --> 00:29:41.250
The Last Voyage of the Demeter?

00:29:41.250 --> 00:29:42.535
I think is what it's called.

00:29:42.806 --> 00:29:43.931
For those of you who don't know.

00:29:43.931 --> 00:29:58.952
So when Dracula was trying to move from Transylvania to London, he took a ship called the Demeter and they made a movie about that little ship in the book, in the Bram Stoker book, they actually don't talk about.

00:29:59.326 --> 00:30:00.049
Not very much at all.

00:30:00.049 --> 00:30:00.772
No, his trip.

00:30:01.445 --> 00:30:02.652
It's a whole movie based on his trip.

00:30:02.652 --> 00:30:04.730
I really want to do that now.

00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:05.534
So do I.

00:30:05.534 --> 00:30:13.465
They were forward thinking, they were a semi-independent state, they could handle their own business.

00:30:13.465 --> 00:30:22.230
But when it came to like the big international stuff, they had to like tune in with, like their powerful neighbors and figure out what the hell was going on.

00:30:22.230 --> 00:30:30.237
Sure, it makes sense, but then you have sigismund battering, who was a prince on and off um when he thought about it.

00:30:30.637 --> 00:30:33.551
I'm a prince today I'm a prince but he was a prince of.

00:30:33.571 --> 00:30:40.719
Transylvania and he was involved in a massive war against the Turks called the Long Turkish War.

00:30:40.719 --> 00:30:48.921
Okay, it was just a part of a centuries-long fight between the Ottomans and the Habsburgs.

00:30:48.921 --> 00:30:52.333
Wow, really, and basically everyone was fighting everyone.

00:30:52.333 --> 00:30:54.074
Okay, so the Long Turkish War was just like a couple of years in between, this centuries-long thing, gotcha.

00:30:54.074 --> 00:30:54.148
Yeah, wow, really.

00:30:54.148 --> 00:30:54.558
Basically everyone was fighting everyone.

00:30:54.558 --> 00:30:57.938
Okay, so the longer turkish war was just like a couple of years in between, this century's long thing, gotcha.

00:30:57.938 --> 00:31:04.977
Yeah, so transylvania was supposed to be on the christian side against the turks, but it was total mess.

00:31:04.977 --> 00:31:11.032
You had the habsburgs, the ottomans, valakia which is now part of romania and transylvania going at it.

00:31:11.032 --> 00:31:14.999
Did you know the Wallachia was where Vlad the Impaler was born.

00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.851
Yes, yes, I just never knew how to properly say it.

00:31:19.851 --> 00:31:20.473
I always called it.

00:31:20.473 --> 00:31:21.929
I know it probably.

00:31:21.929 --> 00:31:23.556
The W was obviously V.

00:31:23.625 --> 00:31:27.248
Yeah, it's spelled with a W, but I think I'm sure it's Wallachia, wallachia, yeah, yeah.

00:31:27.248 --> 00:31:34.834
But for a short time the Habsburgs took over and they tried to make everyone German and Catholic, which didn't go over well.

00:31:35.075 --> 00:31:35.454
No.

00:31:36.115 --> 00:31:37.616
That led to a rebellion and.

00:31:37.616 --> 00:31:42.820
Transylvania got its power back, but the fighting between them and the Habsburgs like didn't stop.

00:31:43.521 --> 00:31:44.323
Okay.

00:31:48.545 --> 00:31:55.920
Being in charge of Transylvania was like trying to balance a bunch of like spinning plates, it's really weird that you went with that analogy.

00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.228
Okay, like balls in the air juggling?

00:31:59.228 --> 00:32:03.721
Yeah, exactly or now spinning plates with the battery trying to climb even higher.

00:32:03.721 --> 00:32:05.105
The year reigns for elizabeth.

00:32:05.105 --> 00:32:10.476
Yeah, to marry count ferinic nadast from austria.

00:32:10.476 --> 00:32:11.538
Okay, I think, nadastie.

00:32:11.557 --> 00:32:11.838
From.

00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:12.559
Austria.

00:32:12.941 --> 00:32:14.664
Okay, I think.

00:32:16.851 --> 00:32:18.215
She was 10.

00:32:18.215 --> 00:32:21.253
Oh wow, when they were betrothed.

00:32:21.875 --> 00:32:22.740
Really Mm-hmm.

00:32:24.211 --> 00:32:28.571
She went to live with his family at the castle Near the Austrian border.

00:32:28.571 --> 00:32:32.549
Yeah, they're in Hungary, but they're on the Austrian border.

00:32:32.549 --> 00:32:34.887
Sure, I'm gonna say that and that's gonna be fact.

00:32:34.887 --> 00:32:37.713
Okay, it's just gonna be fact, it's hungry.

00:32:38.055 --> 00:32:38.856
Check wikipedia.

00:32:38.916 --> 00:32:43.394
It's fact are we talking about this, where I got all my information?

00:32:43.494 --> 00:32:47.230
well clearly yeah, here's where things get a little funky.

00:32:47.230 --> 00:33:03.365
When she was a teenager, there was a rumor, yes, which popped up actually way after she even she died, oh really, yes that she had a secret relationship with a lower class guy oh dear, a peasant and had a baby.

00:33:03.365 --> 00:33:05.951
Oh really, supposedly.

00:33:05.951 --> 00:33:19.259
When count nadazdi found out, he went nuts and he had the guy castrated and thrown to the dogs and the baby was either hidden away or killed like this don't exist I would think back in those times.

00:33:19.278 --> 00:33:22.490
It was probably killed, but it was just a rumor, well, of course.

00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:26.038
And so what was the purpose of bringing this up?

00:33:26.224 --> 00:33:50.893
well, after she was even dead oh, I'll get to that, yeah, yeah, but there's lots and lots of letters pertaining to elizabeth and from elizabeth, and they actually praised her for being pure okay so they're thinking like this was just a fucking rumor oh well, I mean, rumors do come up, and they're just rumors sometimes.

00:33:50.893 --> 00:33:59.371
So yes, so she married count farinik nadazdi when she was 15, so they were recording for five years.

00:33:59.391 --> 00:34:04.631
Five years, yeah that's kind of like annie oakley all over again they got married within one year.

00:34:04.631 --> 00:34:06.335
Yeah, they did that's wild.

00:34:06.335 --> 00:34:07.999
How old was uh?

00:34:09.141 --> 00:34:10.844
uh, so well, oh gosh.

00:34:10.844 --> 00:34:16.137
Um, I think he was 14 or 15 at the time of betrothal.

00:34:16.344 --> 00:34:17.871
Oh, so he was pretty young too, yeah, okay.

00:34:18.844 --> 00:34:22.936
They married in 1575 and it was a political move.

00:34:22.936 --> 00:34:26.614
Sure, bringing these two bigwig families together Makes sense.

00:34:26.744 --> 00:34:31.106
She did keep her own name, yeah, which is kind of wild, bathory Day.

00:34:31.186 --> 00:34:34.873
Exed, which kind of tells you how important her family already was.

00:34:34.894 --> 00:34:37.219
Right, well, they were pretty prominent, yeah, exactly.

00:34:37.744 --> 00:34:39.592
So they did have some kids.

00:34:39.592 --> 00:34:52.974
Um, some of them likely did not make it to childhood or, excuse me, to adulthood, sure, um, but she had Anna, catalin and Paul, and they were all growing up with a governess, much like she did as she was growing up.

00:34:53.054 --> 00:34:54.697
Right, that's typical for the time.

00:34:54.717 --> 00:35:02.858
Yeah, but there were like letters in her will and stuff like that that didn't mention like some of the other birthed kids.

00:35:03.844 --> 00:35:05.090
Only those ones were mentioned.

00:35:05.090 --> 00:35:06.969
Yes, so she probably had more.

00:35:06.969 --> 00:35:08.951
Yes, only those made it to adulthood.

00:35:08.951 --> 00:35:09.735
Exactly Okay, gotcha.

00:35:09.735 --> 00:35:10.605
Exactly Okay, gotcha.

00:35:11.646 --> 00:35:20.844
So Elizabeth was pretty busy running her husband's estates on her own as he went off to be a military commander, sure.

00:35:20.844 --> 00:35:28.599
So he was fighting the Ottoman Habsburg Wars which Transylvania had jumped back into trying to free from the Ottomans.

00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:36.096
So Ferenc went off to war in 1578 and basically didn't come back for several years.

00:35:36.096 --> 00:35:37.719
Wow, Years.

00:35:37.938 --> 00:35:38.480
That's crazy.

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.715
And how old was she at this time?

00:35:41.715 --> 00:35:44.192
This was right after she got married.

00:35:45.067 --> 00:35:46.172
She was 18.

00:35:46.724 --> 00:35:54.012
Okay, so still pretty young, yeah, and they were only married, for she would have been married for three years at this point, roughly, yes, okay.

00:35:54.032 --> 00:35:59.280
Yes, okay, yes, that meant Elizabeth was left to run the whole gambit.

00:35:59.460 --> 00:36:01.505
Well, yeah, I mean she's in charge.

00:36:01.525 --> 00:36:06.157
She managed his businesses and their estates, and she was actually really good at it.

00:36:06.364 --> 00:36:07.429
What kind of businesses did it have?

00:36:07.429 --> 00:36:08.570
Did that mention it at all?

00:36:08.925 --> 00:36:11.536
It was more like land and taxes.

00:36:11.536 --> 00:36:14.126
Yeah, okay, yeah.

00:36:14.146 --> 00:36:16.623
Sure more like land um and um, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, I mean that's common for the time, of course.

00:36:16.643 --> 00:36:20.534
so so she had some serious responsibilities.

00:36:20.534 --> 00:36:22.099
She had to defend their lands.

00:36:22.099 --> 00:36:26.751
They were right on the way to like vienna, which was a major habsburg city.

00:36:26.751 --> 00:36:35.650
Okay, she provided medical care for people in the area and helped a woman who had lost their husbands in the war and were like, basically left with nothing.

00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:53.070
Sure, um, but now figuring out how people really felt about their landlords back then could be tricky, yeah, but usually you look at letters of complaint or petitions and that's how people kind of aired their grievances, right, whether it was something small like theft or something big like someone getting hurt or killed.

00:36:53.070 --> 00:36:59.938
Yeah, yeah, there are zero letters complaining about elizabeth's rule that's wild.

00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:11.875
I mean, that shows that she was a she was a good leader pretty decent person, while her husband was gone yeah, no kidding wow and there wasn't even any grievances, like about taxes.

00:37:12.096 --> 00:37:13.539
Everybody was pretty happy.

00:37:13.539 --> 00:37:48.536
So, while her husband, her husband fenerick um, was making a name for himself as an effective military leader yeah, he helped capture a bunch of ottoman castles, um, and basically he was out there being a war hero yeah and she was holding the ford down at home, right, sure, so he actually had a reputation for being seriously brutal with his ottoman prisoners oh really, yes, so he just whenever, whoever he captured, yes, that they didn't fare too well it's.

00:37:48.715 --> 00:37:50.726
It got pretty grotesque apparently.

00:37:50.726 --> 00:37:52.289
Oh dear um.

00:37:52.289 --> 00:37:58.860
They would mess with the bodies of guys who were tortured to death, and then they would apparently play catch with their heads.

00:37:59.485 --> 00:38:02.849
Oh, so that's kind of like in what was that?

00:38:02.849 --> 00:38:06.275
I was playing ping pong and ding dang.

00:38:06.275 --> 00:38:08.820
No, I'm sorry, Dodgeball.

00:38:08.820 --> 00:38:17.889
Ping pong and ding dang is beer fest Dodgeball where they started throwing their heads in opium, opium dens or whatever.

00:38:17.889 --> 00:38:18.610
Do you remember?

00:38:18.650 --> 00:38:18.871
that?

00:38:18.871 --> 00:38:19.773
No, I don't remember that.

00:38:20.456 --> 00:38:20.757
Anyways.

00:38:24.106 --> 00:38:26.795
Hey, we're having a two parter and this is the end.

00:38:26.795 --> 00:38:30.295
I'm so sorry, but Sing us out Cher.

00:38:30.295 --> 00:38:34.655
If you believe in love after love.

00:38:34.655 --> 00:38:40.911
You asked for it.

00:38:41.132 --> 00:38:41.873
All right, buffoons.

00:38:41.873 --> 00:38:43.291
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