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Oct. 22, 2024

The Oprah of Death

The Oprah of Death
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Season 1

Ever wondered if a breakfast sandwich can outclass a classic turkey and salami roll? Join Kate and Bradley as they launch History Buffoons with a playful debate on sandwich superiority, featuring some new beverages to try—Brewsicle Peach Mango Wheat Ale for Kate and Hazy Bluff Hazy IPA for Bradley. From Bradley’s aversion to white foods to Kate’s childhood antics with whipped cream, the banter sets the stage for a fun yet informative episode.

Then, brace yourself for the dramatic saga of Emperor Nero's rise to power, influenced by his scheming mother, Agrippina. We unpack Agrippina's ruthless maneuvers, including the poisoning of Emperor Claudius, to secure Nero’s ascent to the throne at age 16. As Nero struggles for independence, he exiles his mother and eliminates his stepbrother Britannicus. The discussion scrutinizes his relationships with advisors and the controversial policies of his reign, making this a riveting historical narrative.

Finally, we unravel the chaos of Nero's later years, including the Great Fire of Rome and the subsequent persecution of Christians. Despite popular myths, Nero wasn’t fiddling while Rome burned but swiftly enacted recovery measures upon his return. The episode culminates with the turbulent Year of Four Emperors, leading to the rise of the Flavian dynasty. Tune in for a blend of humor, historical insights, and engaging stories that make history not just informative but downright entertaining. Stay curious and remember—on History Buffoons, the buffoonery never stops!

Sources:

Nero - The Evil Roman Emperor? Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oWddO2Zs6g&t=2921s


The Colosseum
https://www.thecolosseum.org/gladiators/

Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_gladiator_types

Ancient-Origins

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-important-events/gladiators-priscus-and-verus-equal-they-fought-equal-they-yielded-009321




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Chapters

00:12 - History Buffoons Discuss Sandwiches and Nero

06:44 - Emperor Nero's Rise and Fall

13:10 - Nero's Conflict With Agrippina

28:51 - Nero's Rome Burns, Conspiracy Theories

32:40 - Nero's Scandals and Tyranny

46:15 - The Year of Four Emperors

57:37 - Stay Curious With History Buffoons

Transcript
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oh, hey there hey, there how's it going?

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Good that's good.

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I'm kate and I'm bradley, and this is history buffoons, huzzah.

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I don't think we say that every time, so I wanted to make sure that we said we are history buffoons I was gonna also suggest that because I think we forgot maybe a couple times a couple times, but hey, here we are yeah again yeah, this is history, buffoons, it is.

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I'm just preparing for the next time.

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We, we don't remember true, we are history buffins three times now what are you drinking?

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uh well, nothing yet.

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Uh, let's see, I got the potosi hazy bluff hazy ipa.

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Paradise in the driftless sounds, dark and ominous it really does it's from potosi, wisconsin where's that?

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Wisconsin Cool, I always forget.

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I think it's up north a bit, I believe, I'm not sure.

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Does it tell me where it probably wouldn't say we are northwest Wisconsin?

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Yeah, it just says brewed and canned by Potosi Brewing Company, potosi, wisconsin.

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So I apologize.

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I don't know where they are off the top of my head.

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I just knew they were in Wisconsin.

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Yeah, I've got a Brewsicle peach, mango wheat ale.

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Yeah, it's a wheat ale made with peach juice Yum Yum, mango juice, yum Yum.

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And natural flavors, yum who doesn't like some natural flavors?

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Mine is a 5.0 percent do you want to say who it's from, or do you want me to?

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yeah, it's from lake front brewery, from milwaukee yeah, I've been there many a time have you I've sold a lot of their beer in my life.

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Their ipa is delicious, especially on tap their can has a little saying.

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It's kind of cute okay, let's hear it says please recycle me, I want to come back.

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That's super cute that's funny.

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Yeah, they're.

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They're a good brewery.

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I like them a lot.

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I've, like I said, over the last't know 20 some years I sold a lot of that beer.

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Have you ever had this one?

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Yes, I have, it's really good.

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I want to have one now.

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I had it on.

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Oh all right, hold on.

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That was weak.

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There, it is Okay, I'm going to sit first.

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Okay, I had it on oh shit.

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Pretty good, right right it's really weird, it's different, but once you get past the, it's a mango beer.

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Yeah, well, mango peach mango, peach beer, that's weird no, it's a mango peach natural flavor, beer natural flavors.

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Don't forget the natural flavors.

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Uh, I had it on draft.

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A while ago.

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The wife, kids and I went strawberry picking I believe I told you that once and we went to late lunch, early dinner afterwards and the place that we went to had that.

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So I had, I had it on draft.

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It wasn't as fresh as it should have been, but it's probably not super popular, it's really it's unique, yeah, unique.

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It's unique, yeah, which is fine, but all right, I'm going to try mine.

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Okay, what was it the Hazy?

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Hazy Bluff, bluff.

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That's pretty good.

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Not overly citrusy for a hazy, but I like it.

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Oh is hazy, typically citrusy.

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I mean yeah, for the most part.

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Oh.

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It all depends.

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Yeah, well, I I had a question for you because I actually had one of these for breakfast this morning.

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Oh dear, how would you define a sandwich?

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uh, bread on either side, meat and some other things in the middle what other things?

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Well, it depends because, like I don't like lettuce, but people put lettuce on there or tomatoes, stuff like that I want to know what you would put on it oh dear, like my ideal sandwich oh yeah, let's go there all right.

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So it wouldn't be just bread, it would be actually like a roll.

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I'd prefer a roll oh okay, um, with uh turkey hard salami, some type of cheese, cheddar, pepper jack.

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I like cheese, I'm from wisconsin and uh honey mustard oh that's usually what I make for a sandwich yeah but I like also like uh not shredded uh, lunch, meat, chicken, ham, lots of meats.

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Yeah, put some pepperonis on there, whatever it's delicious mini pepperonis yeah, mini hot dogs yeah like I put in my chili yeah, mini hot dogs.

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I had a sandwich for breakfast this morning.

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What'd?

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You have I had a turkey cheese and mayo with lime, a sandwich mayo with lime yeah, there's like a lime flavoring.

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It's mild um in this mayo and it's so good.

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I think it's from the brand mccormick's.

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It's so good I am not what you would call a fan of mayo, so you're not a fan of anything white.

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You don't like.

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What about alfredo?

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Do you like alfredo?

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you're pretty cool hey, I I love alfredo.

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Okay, alfredo is delicious.

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You don't like um sour cream.

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I love Alfredo.

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Alfredo is delicious, you don't like sour cream.

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No Cottage cheese ranch Cottage cheese.

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No, you eat that with a spoon, I just want to throw up.

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I do, just give me the container.

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The tub that it's in.

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That sounds terrible.

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You like whipped cream?

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I do like whipped cream, I will also just eat the tub.

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Well, that's it's like yeah, it's so good.

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It's like candy in like fluff form.

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Basically, I know it's delicious, I know like I think I've told you that before, though that's how my parents used to get us to, uh oh yeah take our medication when we're younger, like if we had to take even just take a Tylenol or something.

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Just, kids are terrible at swallowing pills, so do that, yeah, and it worked really well.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I got a burp so I apologize.

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Try not to do it into the microphone.

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Let me distract the listeners hey.

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Al the microphone, let me um distract the view, the the listeners.

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Um yeah, so we are gonna talk about nero, the roman emperor.

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Nice, do you know anything about nero?

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not.

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I mean, I know of him, but I don't.

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I wouldn't say I know anything.

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Yeah, I actually probably knew nothing about him when I started researching him.

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Emperor nero, yeah, so I was researching something completely different in this same time frame and nero kept popping up and I was like, all right, let's read up on this guy before I continue on much farther with this other topic.

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And I was like, okay, I like this.

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Sure, all right, and I actually tie in nero to this original topic at the very end, there you go.

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Yeah, that works yeah, so um, mr Nero was Mr Nero yeah, he was born December 15th in 37 AD oh wow, yeah, a couple years ago you remember the time?

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I was there he was born in Antiem Italy so I so I used to, I don't not used to.

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I always joke about my mom being old, and she knows that I do, so I ask her sometimes, like what was it like walking with Jesus?

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Anyways, that's fantastic, yeah, sorry, continue so, nero's father died when he was three.

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I'm sorry, where was he born, Antiem?

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Italy.

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Okay, sorry, continue.

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So Nero's father died when he was three.

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I'm sorry.

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Where was he born?

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Antium, italy.

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Okay, sorry, I know we kind of cut you off there no that's okay.

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Um so um, his mother remarried emperor Claudius.

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Okay, okay.

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So Claudius had two sons, one of which died um fairly early on in life, and the other one was Britannicus, britannicus yeah, sounds like an encyclopedia.

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Oh wait, that was Britannica.

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That's real close Britannica, britannicus.

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So Claudius adopted Nero, so he's officially then his stepson Gotcha, but he became the heir.

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Wouldn't he be a stepson anyways?

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But not I mean.

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Well, because he got adopted yeah.

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He became the heir of Rome.

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Yeah, correct, all right, his wife, nope, just kidding His mother.

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Her name is Agrippina, agrippina, mm-hmm.

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And she was very ambitious, oh yes.

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Go get her.

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She plowed the way for her son, Nero, by replacing Britannicus' tutors and confidants and guards with her own loyal supporters.

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Okay, how did she get so many loyal supporters?

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What's like?

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You know, I'm going to follow this chick.

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I think she had a big voice already.

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Sure, and being the wife of an emperor, she just had.

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I'm sure that didn't hurt.

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No, obviously no, but you know she just had.

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I'm sure that didn't hurt?

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No, obviously, but you know.

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So at 16 narrow married his dun dun dun stepsister oh well, I mean, it's not blood, so that's something um.

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So his stepsister, now wife, is claudia octavia.

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Okay, okay, claudius dies in ad 54 that was the stepdad yep, he died in 54 and many historians claim that he was probably poisoned by agrippina oh, so she was really going out of her way to be.

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Yeah, nero.

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That is speculation.

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Well sure, Historians differ, but yeah, so that's the kind of woman she was.

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Oh, murder, they're like huh, yeah, we're just going to blame it on her.

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She seems like the type.

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That seems like something she would do.

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So Nero became emperor.

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Then, on October 13th, 54 AD, at just 16 years old.

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That's pretty early to be an emperor.

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Yeah, and Agrippina, the mother controlled him.

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Imagine that.

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Yeah, she actually murdered.

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Well, she commanded other people to murder political rivals.

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Mm-hmm.

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And even though her relationship with Nero deteriorated, eventually she was basically his puppeteer for quite a while.

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Okay.

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So as he became a little bit more independent, agrippina was eventually exiled after threatening to support her son, britannicus.

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So she was trying to throw him under the bus.

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Then yeah Said nah, you're not listening to me, I want to do this kid now.

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Now I'm just going to go for Britannicus.

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What the hell.

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Yeah, and Britannicus was poisoned.

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By I think Nero.

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That would make sense, because she all of a sudden wanted to overthrow him and put this other kid in there.

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I mean, he was the biological son, he was a political threat to Nero.

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Well, wasn't he her biological son though?

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No, this was Claudius' biological son, not hers.

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Right Britannicus was yes.

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But Nero was her biological son.

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What I, what?

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I was saying yes, so you have to be a real, yeah, yeah, see you next tuesday.

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Yeah, I was just gonna say that to uh.

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Want to kill your own kid yeah, so britannicus was poisoned at a dinner party in 55 ad and so only a year after he took the throne at 16.

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Yes, wow, yes, that escalated quickly it really did, at least back in those days so the circumstances of the poisoning are debated, and it is generally accepted that nero did it well mean all signs kind of point to that yeah.

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With what the mom was trying to kind of accomplish, I guess.

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So Nero's early reign was characterized by well-intentioned and ineffective policies.

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Okay, so his advisors, which used to be Britannica Britannica, you told me, britannica, and now that's all I can think of Britannicus.

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Britannicus, so his advisors used to be Britannica, and now that's all I can think of Britannicus.

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Britannicus, so his advisors used to be Britannicus's.

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Just call them encyclopedia.

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Okay, so his advisors Burrus and Seneca are credited with all the administrative processes that Nero did.

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There's a football player quarterback named Seneca.

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Yeah, it's a cool name.

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Seneca Wallace.

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Super cool name.

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I think I got that right.

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So Nero struggled to make decisions independently, especially during crises.

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Oh, that's the worst time not to panic, I guess.

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And despite his early reign he was still widely praised.

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Oh, that's good, at least.

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And it was later described as the Golden Age.

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Oh well.

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Well, it's because he's not acting on his own.

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Hey, you're doing a great job.

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Because you're not doing anything.

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It's the people behind you.

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It's the puppeteers.

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Nero implemented fiscal reforms and provided slaves with a means to complain about their treatment.

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Oh, that's nice.

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Here's a form.

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Fill it out.

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That's what I was just going to say.

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Write it for the suggestion box, but I don't know how to write, sir.

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Figure it out Wow.

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Nero would also hold Senate meetings at the palace so that his mother could listen in on the proceedings.

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While she was exiled, or just well, this was before she was exiled.

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This was before she was exiled.

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Okay, I mean that makes sense.

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Obviously she was given the title of priestess oh Lord, and was seen on imperial coinage both by herself and with her son, with Nero.

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Yeah, okay.

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So, despite publicly praising his adopted father, claudius, in a senate speech, he took steps to distance himself from from claudius's policies.

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So some of the things that he did was um public officials no longer had to pay for public games that are their own pockets oh, so they're just like you get to go for free yeah, and then they also um prohibited lawyers from collecting defendant fees that couldn't have made them happy agrippina didn't like it much.

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Well, apparently she didn't like much because she wanted to kill her own kid yeah so who is?

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I don't?

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Did you mention who his dad was like, like his actual dad was.

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No, it didn't really say.

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I'm sure it did, I just didn't write it down.

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Well, I guess it's not pertinent because you know you're going past that point, but I was just curious if you knew.

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Because, yeah, where's daddy in all this?

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Yeah.

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Probably dead.

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Honestly, Agrippina probably killed him.

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So in 55 AD Agrippina's face was taken off the coinage and Seneca, the tutor, so did they have to collect them all up and scrape them off.

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I'm sure it went back to the mint.

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Well, I'm sure they just melted it down and reformed a new coin or whatever.

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Yeah.

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So his tutor, seneca, encouraged Nero's autonomy from his mother.

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So this is when Agrippina started promoting her stepson.

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Botanicus he is the true heir, so wait.

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Botanicus was her stepson and he was Claudius's stepson, so no, it was.

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Claudius's son is Botanicannicus but not with agrippina correct oh, that I did.

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Okay, I mixed that up from before.

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I thought they had britannicus.

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No, she had okay no so they each were okay, I got you yeah, so in 55 ad, nero began having an affair with a former slave called Claudia Actae.

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Okay.

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And he threatened to divorce Octavia the stepsister.

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Though it never came to fruition, claudia, actae and Nero lived openly together, okay, despite not being divorced.

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Gotcha.

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Then Britannicus died.

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Poor guy.

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Yeah, so Agrippina losing her grasp on what power she did, have she claimed an ally in Nero's sister, stepsister, slash wife, sister wife, I don't know I mean, mean kind of in a way and she.

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She also um claimed allies in other influential individuals I'm sure she tried to and roman guards which I mean they do a lot back then, I'm sure yeah, so nero caught on and went after the same guards with a bribe of free grain.

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Oh, who doesn't want free grain?

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Yeah, so Nero banished his mother from the palace and also removed her guards, but sneakily.

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Oh no.

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As it looked like they were actually being called on for military purposes.

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They're like I'm not actually stripping it from you, but it looks like I'm stripping them from you.

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So it's kind of like have you ever seen the movie man in the Iron Mask?

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Once upon a time.

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With Leo DiCaprio.

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Yeah, probably when it first came out.

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I think it came out in like 97, if I'm guessing, I was probably there in 97, to be honest, In England or France or whatever.

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No, France At the time of the viewing.

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I know that's what basically Leo's character, what King Louis sent drawing a blank on her name, but it was John Malkovich's kid and his girlfriend or whatever he was going to propose.

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But he liked her.

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He didn't really want to be with her, he just wanted to bang her, basically, basically.

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So he sent him to the front lines and that's where he died.

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Yeah, yeah, weird, so it's like that.

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Anyway, sorry, that was really got derailed quickly we should watch that, you know for historical purposes.

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It's a historical document right.

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So in her weekend state, agrippina, or the rivals of Agrippina, teamed up against her and went to Nero accusing his mother of crimes against the emperor.

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Well, I mean, they're not wrong.

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They're not wrong because she wanted to kill him basically because you're not being my puppet, no more.

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It's kind of like he was like Pinocchio he cut the strings.

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I'm a real boy.

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So Nero panicked and ordered her to be exiled.

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Okay.

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His once advisor Burrus.

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Burrus.

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Asked for proof before exiling her.

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I mean, that's something you should honestly do.

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Yeah, so Nero agreed Right and they held a trial for her.

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Okay do yeah.

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So nero agreed right and they had held a trial for her.

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Okay, nero ended up dismissing the charges against her and ordered her conspirators to be exiled and some to be killed oh geez yeah sucks for them.

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Yeah, even though they were probably right so conflicts surrounding nero and his mother worsened in 58 AD, when Nero had an affair with Papea Sabine.

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Papea, papea Sabina, my bad.

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Sabina oh, how could you fuck that?

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up Papea Sabina.

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Everyone knows Papea Sabina.

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Well, Papea's marital status at the beginning of the affair is disputed.

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Some claim that she was married to Roman aristocracy.

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Okay so.

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It's clear that Agrippina opposed the relationship due to her affection of Nero's wife Octavia.

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Well, yeah, because she had her in her pocket right, yeah, it's all about who your ally is Well, of course, that's why she was pissed about it.

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Yeah, she honestly probably didn't give a shit.

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So even though we probably know and understand what's happening here next, the exact reasons for Nero's next decision in 59 AD seems to be unclear for some.

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Oh okay.

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So, fearing that his mother, agrippina, was trying to plot a murder to murder Nero, he instead ordered his mother to be killed.

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Oh well, that's brilliant.

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Nero ended up staging a shipwreck.

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What?

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Yeah, so she was exiled, right?

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Did they say where she was exiled?

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somewhere overseas.

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Well, I mean, that's pretty vague um, yeah, but I I didn't write it down, but it's.

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It's somewhere like close by, but you had to go there by ship like sicily, I mean ish yeah, yeah, probably some kind of island.

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Okay, feel free to correct me.

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I mean, we are professional, not professionals.

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I say not, I like how you start to say we are, no, we're not this is a thing again.

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Let's reiterate real quick before you continue we to say we are, no, we're not.

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This is a thing.

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Again, let's reiterate real quick before you continue.

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We are not.

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We are buffoons.

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Yeah, we are.

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We're trying to learn stuff.

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We're going off of the information we find.

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Again, feel free to text us, email us.

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If you ever hear anything.

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They're like well, that's not right.

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Right Because we'd like to know the real thing for sure.

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If we're wrong, yeah, but again we go off the research that we, that you do, and uh go from there but anyways, and so continue.

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Nero invited his mother to a resort.

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They had resorts back then, like a sandals, or was it all inclusive?

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They're probably wearing sandals, well, hey-o, so he was.

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I see what you did there.

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He invited his mother, pretending to want to reconcile, and she agreed, and she came by ship.

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They made nice and quote unquote reconnected.

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How cute is that.

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Nero walked her down to the shore to see her sail off, but then the boat capsized and Agrippina survived.

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Weird.

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I mean, I kind of knew that was going to happen, because I feel like that would be a really short episode otherwise here.

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Well, it's not about Agrippina, it's about Nero.

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I get that.

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But she made it back home and immediately wrote a letter to nero explaining the accident.

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My dear reconnected son I almost died.

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Horrified that she survived, nero dispatched three men to kill her oh, good lord before she died, she bared her stomach and told the killers to stab her in the womb that carried nero.

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Wow, boom.

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Such a mic drop um, I don't understand why he had to like conspire.

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He's the fucking emperor of rome to say go kill this lady.

00:23:19.309 --> 00:23:21.057
Yeah, she was my mom, but Well, he ended up having to do that.

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He was trying to save face.

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I mean I guess, but I'm sure a lot more debaucherous shit went on during the Roman times than killing a mother or family member.

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Well, she received no state funeral and was quickly cremated and buried in an unmarked grave oh, I can't even go visit it.

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No, was it buried in the island she was exiled on?

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No or grave, I guess the questions you ask.

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I'm like I don't know, I didn't read that should I not be asking these questions?

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You're fine so before agrippina's death, nero's reign was marked by successes such as um exploration of the nile river.

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Oh yeah, um.

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However, he his conduct deteriorated significantly after her murder do you?

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is that like a direct correlation with it?

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be like they think it is yeah like kind of lost his mind by hey, I just killed my fucking mother I don't think it was so much he lost his mind, but the the population was more like wait a minute, he just killed his mother, like what the fuck well, didn't, but he had it ordered.

00:24:36.781 --> 00:24:44.682
Which is I mean, if I conspire to kill someone, I'm still being put up for trial, even though I didn't do the deed.

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No, I get that yeah.

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I'm aware how that works, but Good.

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I've watched a lot of true crime.

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He does not.

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I don't.

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What is true crime?

00:24:54.116 --> 00:24:54.518
It's crime.

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That is true.

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Is there a false crime category?

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Yeah, it's called fiction.

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Oh shit, yeah.

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Okay, all right.

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So some historians argue that Nero's decline began as early as 55 AD with the killing of his stepbrother.

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Britannicus, oh yeah, Britannicus.

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But his mother's death marked a turning point leading to a complete disregard for morality and a susceptible susceptibility can you try that?

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susceptibility there it is to flattery.

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I need to learn to not write long words or tough words, a the at You're good, okay, I got that one right.

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Did you though?

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Yes.

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All right.

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After Agrippina's death, nero embarked on ambitious projects such as building the Domus Transitoria, a vast palace connecting various imperial estates.

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Well, fancy that.

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He would conduct extravagant parties and games inviting only his supporters.

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Fancy that he would conduct extravagant parties and games inviting only his supporters so that he would ensure a positive reception well, I mean, it's not like.

00:26:06.349 --> 00:26:08.015
That's like hey, I'm gonna throw a party.

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Let's invite all the people that hate me yeah, why would you do that?

00:26:11.652 --> 00:26:17.522
no, that doesn't make any sense but nero was what you would call an artist.

00:26:17.522 --> 00:26:19.026
Oh he painted.

00:26:19.026 --> 00:26:22.813
No, oh, he liked plays.

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He liked acting in plays, he liked playing the, the lyre okay um is that?

00:26:29.904 --> 00:26:31.412
was that a common role?

00:26:31.491 --> 00:26:35.998
yeah, it was a common instrument, the ly lyre.

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The lyre.

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Is it lyre, l-y-r-e?

00:26:39.222 --> 00:26:40.124
I thought it was lyre.

00:26:40.243 --> 00:26:41.164
It's lyre, I think.

00:26:43.112 --> 00:26:43.432
I don't know.

00:26:43.432 --> 00:26:46.538
And then they would also play Greek games.

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But they're Roman.

00:26:51.771 --> 00:27:16.586
Which is why I said Greek games, Following the death of his advisor Burrus what his advisor there it is what I say advisor a the anyways so following burris's death in 62 ad, who was against nero divorcing Claudia Actavia?

00:27:16.707 --> 00:27:30.558
he was free to do just that so he ended up getting divorced finally he ended up getting a divorce oh so no, she's just a step sister again yeah, so it was because she she failed to provide him an heir like that.

00:27:30.598 --> 00:27:31.580
That was his excuse.

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:36.175
I love how that's a common theme throughout history, especially obviously way back then, right.

00:27:36.175 --> 00:27:38.740
Because you didn't give me a son.

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You suck.

00:27:40.284 --> 00:27:42.656
And then he exiled her because why not?

00:27:42.656 --> 00:27:44.920
I mean, I don't need to see your face anymore.

00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:45.988
It's a common practice.

00:27:46.088 --> 00:27:47.476
Right, I don't want to do that anymore.

00:27:48.530 --> 00:27:53.615
So Nero ended up marrying Papina, oh, and she got pregnant.

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She delivered a baby girl, but only months later she died the baby girl did yeah, okay, and he never had another child, oh man, yeah.

00:28:02.256 --> 00:28:09.271
So nero's reign became increasingly tyrannical oh dear, what did he do.

00:28:09.271 --> 00:28:15.019
He exiled even more potential rivals he liked to exile people he really did.

00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:16.702
He's like be gone with you.

00:28:16.702 --> 00:28:17.984
How's that go?

00:28:17.984 --> 00:28:18.665
Be gone with you.

00:28:18.665 --> 00:28:23.773
You, sir, can fuck right off, Fuck off.

00:28:23.794 --> 00:28:25.298
That's funny.

00:28:25.910 --> 00:28:27.517
He conquered Armenia.

00:28:27.517 --> 00:28:30.999
He defeated a Britain rebellion.

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Oh snap.

00:28:32.162 --> 00:28:39.601
He initiated treason trials against political opponents and abandoned his previous support for the Roman Senate.

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His relationship with the Senate deteriorated as he pursued a more autocratic path.

00:28:48.545 --> 00:28:49.567
Autocratic.

00:28:50.509 --> 00:28:51.190
Autocratic.

00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:53.198
Wow, the way you said that I thought you were having a stroke.

00:28:53.369 --> 00:28:54.674
It's because I was trying not to in the middle of it.

00:28:54.674 --> 00:28:55.478
Yeah, hold on, I've got to wet my whistle.

00:28:55.499 --> 00:28:56.221
I thought you were having a stroke.

00:28:56.221 --> 00:28:57.306
It's because I was trying not to in the middle of it.

00:28:57.326 --> 00:28:58.369
Yeah, yeah, hold on, I got to wet my whistle.

00:28:58.369 --> 00:29:07.551
I should have brought another beer that first one was pretty good, though we can pause for a moment and pause and we're back.

00:29:07.792 --> 00:29:08.515
Guess who's back.

00:29:09.636 --> 00:29:10.538
Shady's back.

00:29:11.582 --> 00:29:12.282
Back again.

00:29:12.282 --> 00:29:13.996
You screwed it up again.

00:29:13.996 --> 00:29:19.192
What did I do, al?

00:29:19.251 --> 00:29:20.234
send us an email at the right lyric.

00:29:20.234 --> 00:29:21.880
She doesn't get it, guess he's back back again.

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.523
There it is shady's back.

00:29:24.105 --> 00:29:26.371
Tell a friend now you're getting it, did I?

00:29:26.530 --> 00:29:28.134
yeah, oh pat on the back.

00:29:28.134 --> 00:29:33.082
Okay, what do you got this time?

00:29:33.303 --> 00:29:34.384
I got a liney summer.

00:29:34.384 --> 00:29:40.317
Shandy, that's your favorite, that's my summer favorite yeah, okay but apparently it's available your own.

00:29:40.938 --> 00:29:43.743
No, I was told I hope that's true for you.

00:29:43.743 --> 00:29:53.432
Well, I mean I hope it's not wrong okay, so so, as I said, his the senate deteriorated yeah, well, I mean when he's trying to fuck it all up.

00:29:53.712 --> 00:29:54.755
I don't't doubt that.

00:29:55.376 --> 00:30:00.576
And then he had ordered Claudia Octavia's death, like he exiles her, is that not?

00:30:00.656 --> 00:30:01.078
enough.

00:30:01.078 --> 00:30:02.959
Why did he want to kill her all of a sudden?

00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:12.284
And this is kind of a content trigger warning, I guess, of suicide, which I guess is a common theme in this story.

00:30:12.284 --> 00:30:13.286
So my apologies.

00:30:13.911 --> 00:30:14.814
Well, I mean it's history.

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It's not our fault.

00:30:15.897 --> 00:30:25.451
Yeah, so he ordered her death by slitting her wrist to make it appear as if it was a suicide oh dear yeah that's pretty uh gruesome intense.

00:30:25.451 --> 00:30:33.979
Yeah, so in 64 ad a fire started at the campus meritus.

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Meritus.

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What is that?

00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:43.026
It is a large open field that was used for military exercises, parades and public events.

00:30:43.026 --> 00:30:44.106
Fair enough, that makes sense.

00:30:44.106 --> 00:30:49.207
Yeah, so the fire spread quickly with the wind's help.

00:30:49.207 --> 00:30:54.520
Sure it engulfed everything in its path, including Nero's palace.

00:30:54.842 --> 00:30:58.289
Oh dear, like his whole entire palace, yeah but he wasn't there.

00:30:58.289 --> 00:30:59.854
Well, was he exiled?

00:31:00.375 --> 00:31:02.398
he was staying in antiem where he was born.

00:31:02.398 --> 00:31:12.752
Oh fancy that when he heard the news he went to rome immediately and with the fire brigade it took them six days, oh dear, to get the fire under control.

00:31:12.752 --> 00:31:14.155
That's, that's a long fire.

00:31:14.155 --> 00:31:21.417
Obviously the men needed rest and to refuel and during this downtime the fire searched again for another three days.

00:31:21.417 --> 00:31:26.634
Damn, 75 of the city was destroyed really holy shit.

00:31:27.115 --> 00:31:27.896
Isn't that a lot?

00:31:27.896 --> 00:31:35.421
I mean, that's, yeah, that's three quarters of the city, so that and that's they're saying is rome burned.

00:31:35.721 --> 00:31:52.711
Yeah, I, I did not know that ever happened, to be honest and there was a rumor that nero played the fiddle during the burning or the leer well, they mentioned fiddle, but then the documentary that I was watching, they're like if it did happen it would have been a liar.

00:31:52.711 --> 00:32:00.525
But he in fact did weep openly and also cited poetry at the same time.

00:32:00.525 --> 00:32:01.875
Like I said, he's an oddus.

00:32:01.875 --> 00:32:03.115
He's got to have his stage.

00:32:03.549 --> 00:32:05.635
Yeah, I mean, did he put makeup on?

00:32:05.635 --> 00:32:07.701
And oh, woe is me.

00:32:08.951 --> 00:32:10.596
I don't think Shakespeare was alive yet.

00:32:11.459 --> 00:32:12.300
I wasn't okay.

00:32:12.300 --> 00:32:14.797
I'm pretty sure he wasn't alive yet.

00:32:15.990 --> 00:32:19.099
So he was being accused of starting the fire.

00:32:19.099 --> 00:32:20.454
He wasn't there.

00:32:20.454 --> 00:32:29.003
So, to save face, nero brought in extra grain and slashed food prices to help the community recover.

00:32:29.210 --> 00:32:31.017
He's running a sale at the local supermarket.

00:32:31.037 --> 00:32:31.238
Yeah.

00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:33.415
Check out these prices, folks.

00:32:33.415 --> 00:32:34.673
You probably haven't seen these in years.

00:32:34.673 --> 00:32:35.837
I mean, what the fuck?

00:32:35.857 --> 00:32:37.230
50% off Get your grain here, alright.

00:32:37.230 --> 00:32:37.829
Check out these prices, folks.

00:32:37.829 --> 00:32:38.490
You haven't seen these in years.

00:32:38.490 --> 00:32:38.930
I mean, what the fuck?

00:32:38.930 --> 00:32:40.191
30% off Get your green here, all right.

00:32:40.191 --> 00:32:53.452
He also reformed some regulations in an attempt to make the city safer, but then he took it upon himself to claim a huge piece of land, so convenient now that it's available.

00:32:54.373 --> 00:32:55.773
Yeah, that's a little suspect.

00:32:55.773 --> 00:32:59.273
I mean, you're not going to really win any favors like that.

00:32:59.273 --> 00:33:01.575
You didn't start this fire that you now have a sudden.

00:33:01.575 --> 00:33:03.317
Well, hey, this burned down.

00:33:03.317 --> 00:33:04.762
I'm going to take this Mm-hmm.

00:33:05.615 --> 00:33:07.963
He built a 100-acre golden house.

00:33:08.836 --> 00:33:09.779
A golden house.

00:33:09.779 --> 00:33:12.078
That's what they called it.

00:33:12.078 --> 00:33:21.698
Yeah so 100-acre like the house was 100 acres Like there were multiple buildings a part of this palace, so the property was 100 acres.

00:33:21.698 --> 00:33:25.508
Yes, wow, that's crazy, including a giant pool.

00:33:25.508 --> 00:33:31.217
Well, you got to have some refreshments and like for sure, whatnot for sure, for sure.

00:33:32.479 --> 00:33:36.488
So, of course, more suspicions of him starting the fire because of this golden house.

00:33:36.488 --> 00:33:47.025
While modern historians generally believe that nero was not responsible for starting the fire, the historical narrative that blames him has persisted for centuries.

00:33:47.184 --> 00:33:57.195
Well, you know good thing he's dead, because he can't hear that persistence yeah, somehow someone turned the blame to the christians.

00:33:57.717 --> 00:34:05.529
Oh jesus, how I mean come on so the christians refuse to acknowledge the roman gods?

00:34:05.529 --> 00:34:07.200
Well, yeah, because they're christ.

00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:07.781
They believe in one.

00:34:07.821 --> 00:34:08.644
God, Mm-hmm.

00:34:08.644 --> 00:34:13.987
So to spite them, they think the Roman gods brought on the fire.

00:34:13.987 --> 00:34:15.900
So therefore, they're going to blame the Christians.

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:22.244
Wow, this started the massive execution of Christians.

00:34:22.826 --> 00:34:23.588
Oh, lovely.

00:34:24.715 --> 00:34:28.806
They were to wear clothes soaked in tar and burned alive.

00:34:28.806 --> 00:34:29.788
Oh good Lord.

00:34:29.788 --> 00:34:31.963
They were torn apart by dogs.

00:34:31.963 --> 00:34:34.079
Some were crucified.

00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:35.726
Is that not horrible?

00:34:36.007 --> 00:34:37.251
That's terrible yeah.

00:34:38.315 --> 00:34:39.918
There's a senator named Piso.

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:42.724
Piso, mm-hmm Like P-I-S-O.

00:34:42.724 --> 00:34:43.967
Yeah, hey, look at me go.

00:34:44.126 --> 00:34:45.009
Good job, are you Roman?

00:34:45.614 --> 00:34:46.097
Apparently.

00:34:47.619 --> 00:34:54.041
So he was harboring some resentment towards Nero Wow and he ended up forming a conspiracy against him.

00:34:54.443 --> 00:34:56.086
Oh geez, Was he exiled then.

00:34:57.396 --> 00:35:07.266
So Seneca, one of the advisors of Nero when he was young was initially asked to join but declined, but not out of loyalty or anything.

00:35:07.266 --> 00:35:20.396
He just like nah, I'm good, I'm gonna sit over here, but then he found out that his nephew joined the cause and seneca was like all right, oh, okay yeah, he's like all right, fine, I'll join the well I guess my family's part of it now yeah

00:35:20.856 --> 00:35:29.556
okay, fair enough so the conspiracy involved a plan to assassinate nero during a festival, with senator piso stepping up as emperor Wow.

00:35:29.556 --> 00:35:31.762
Yeah, they're like we'll just put you in his place.

00:35:31.942 --> 00:35:33.346
That's quite the escalation.

00:35:33.565 --> 00:35:37.284
Yeah, but he was ultimately betrayed by one of the conspirators.

00:35:38.047 --> 00:35:38.427
Who was?

00:35:39.289 --> 00:35:40.693
Piso oh really.

00:35:40.693 --> 00:35:45.327
Piso was betrayed by one of the conspirators, and the conspirator went to Nero, I'm guessing, because he's like well, I'll get Nero's good graces and let him know what this is and he went to.

00:35:45.347 --> 00:35:56.465
oh, and the conspirator went to nero, I'm guessing, because he's like well, I'll get nero's good graces and probably let him know what this is and he'll give me fortune and fame and blah, blah, grain and grain and slash food prices.

00:35:56.585 --> 00:36:11.460
Fortune and grain so pisa was ordered to be executed without a trial, but but before he was arrested he committed suicide I say, before he was arrested, he was exiled no, he committed suicide.

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:15.567
That's sad, not by your hand no, that's uh.

00:36:15.726 --> 00:36:17.637
I mean, I guess he was going to be dead.

00:36:17.697 --> 00:36:30.027
Anyways, it sucks that he had to take his own life, but so, despite nero's initial reluctance, seneca, the other advisor, was eventually ordered to commit suicide.

00:36:31.228 --> 00:36:34.744
Ordered hey man, you got to kill yourself.

00:36:35.588 --> 00:36:36.371
How do you do that?

00:36:36.371 --> 00:36:54.905
So Seneca says this quote Nero murdered his mother and brother, and now he has nothing worse left to do than kill his foster father and mentor that's sad yeah wow but you also joined a conspiracy against yeah, you should.

00:36:55.327 --> 00:36:57.056
You should have just let the nephew do it, man.

00:36:57.056 --> 00:36:58.701
Yeah, stay out of it.

00:36:58.701 --> 00:37:02.007
This is why people don't join conspiracies.

00:37:02.007 --> 00:37:05.724
Yeah, it's terrible but there's actually.

00:37:06.967 --> 00:37:21.264
It remains a debate among historic historians that he was actually involved in the conspiracy clearly he was to, even if it's a very minute degree yeah because he was forced to do this to himself, right, wow?

00:37:21.264 --> 00:37:29.226
So many conspirators were executed and narrows paranoia increase, leading to further purges and executions.

00:37:29.226 --> 00:37:30.208
Well, can you blame him?

00:37:30.208 --> 00:37:33.125
He's like you can die, and you can die, and you can die.

00:37:33.436 --> 00:37:35.182
Was he like the Oprah of death back then?

00:37:36.255 --> 00:37:38.143
You've got a car and you've got a car.

00:37:38.315 --> 00:37:39.719
You can die and you can die.

00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:41.826
Look under your seat, You're dead.

00:37:41.826 --> 00:37:45.884
I think that might be the episode title Oprah of death.

00:37:55.215 --> 00:37:55.554
No, oh my God, that.

00:37:55.554 --> 00:37:57.717
I think that might be the episode title, oprah of death.

00:37:57.717 --> 00:37:58.878
No, oh my god, that's pretty great.

00:37:58.878 --> 00:37:59.320
We're going to hell.

00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:00.001
Well, no, they did, oh my gosh.

00:38:00.001 --> 00:38:00.101
Okay.

00:38:00.101 --> 00:38:04.565
So in 65, ad nero's beloved poppea died.

00:38:05.186 --> 00:38:05.327
Aw.

00:38:05.907 --> 00:38:06.728
Supposedly.

00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:08.630
Oh wait, maybe she didn't.

00:38:08.771 --> 00:38:15.248
No, oh, there's a rumor that she was kicked to death by Nero while pregnant.

00:38:15.248 --> 00:38:17.501
Like pregnant a second time.

00:38:18.735 --> 00:38:21.625
So, how okay.

00:38:22.534 --> 00:38:25.784
Like he was so mad at her for some reason that he kicked her to death.

00:38:25.784 --> 00:38:27.059
I'm so mad you're dying.

00:38:27.059 --> 00:38:29.458
No, she wasn't.

00:38:29.458 --> 00:38:31.262
She wasn't dying, I was joking.

00:38:31.342 --> 00:38:31.943
He kicked her.

00:38:31.943 --> 00:38:33.807
Calm down, take a breath.

00:38:33.807 --> 00:38:40.148
So how can we call her his beloved papaya?

00:38:40.148 --> 00:38:42.458
Wait, what's her name?

00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:46.367
Papaya, papaya, papaya.

00:38:46.567 --> 00:38:47.188
Pepperoni.

00:38:47.554 --> 00:38:48.338
What Papaya.

00:38:48.739 --> 00:38:49.282
Papaya?

00:38:49.282 --> 00:38:50.427
I said papaya, papaya, papaya, pepperoni.

00:38:50.427 --> 00:38:50.829
What papaya, papaya?

00:38:50.829 --> 00:38:53.677
I said papaya, my bad, that's a fruit, that's a fruit.

00:38:53.677 --> 00:38:59.869
Um, but like, how can we call her beloved if he kicked her to death?

00:39:00.068 --> 00:39:01.237
well, like I said, it was a rumor.

00:39:01.237 --> 00:39:06.257
Well, I'm sorry, but there seems to be a lot of rumors surrounding this character.

00:39:06.257 --> 00:39:11.581
So and well, she probably died from miscarrying her baby and she probably continued hemorrhaging.

00:39:11.581 --> 00:39:15.101
That's what historians think happened.

00:39:15.101 --> 00:39:27.367
Instead of the kicking yeah, one or the other Because, instead of a traditional Roman cremation, nero had her embalmed like an Egyptian royal woman.

00:39:27.367 --> 00:39:30.820
So he clearly loved her, and he probably did not kick her to death.

00:39:30.860 --> 00:39:32.447
So how did they get the kicking then?

00:39:32.447 --> 00:39:33.894
Like, where did that even come, people?

00:39:34.034 --> 00:39:41.418
he hated Nero they probably came up with all kinds of rumors against him, make him seem worse than he was kind of thing okay, okay yeah.

00:39:42.157 --> 00:39:44.360
I mean, I can see that, but what the hell?

00:39:44.621 --> 00:39:55.119
yeah, so in 60, 67 ad he went to greece and he met a young slave boy named sporus.

00:39:55.721 --> 00:40:06.467
Sporus, he's a fun guy that's a knee slapper right there folks, he's a fun guy.

00:40:07.568 --> 00:40:09.811
Nero was reportedly captivated.

00:40:10.496 --> 00:40:12.342
Oh, so all of a sudden he's switching teams.

00:40:12.835 --> 00:40:17.423
Well, no, he actually had him castrated.

00:40:18.097 --> 00:40:22.360
Oh wow, what a dick, sir, you got it.

00:40:31.175 --> 00:40:34.802
God we got really warm in here, oh wow anyways.

00:40:34.802 --> 00:40:38.657
So sporus apparently looked like papaya.

00:40:38.657 --> 00:40:41.563
Well, okay, so he would dress.

00:40:41.563 --> 00:40:55.463
He would dress sporus up in clothes and wigs and and stuff to resemble papaya here's some coconuts, put those up front, okay.

00:40:55.483 --> 00:41:00.429
So he he saw his dead wife in a slave boy.

00:41:00.429 --> 00:41:09.148
In a slave boy like you know what you got too much man of you slice and then nero married sporus.

00:41:09.327 --> 00:41:18.978
What the fuck and um, they started calling sporus empress and they would shout and the people would shower him with gifts and affection.

00:41:18.978 --> 00:41:22.784
The relationship caused significant scandal.

00:41:22.784 --> 00:41:29.635
You don't say it was seen as a violation of traditional gender roles well, yeah, because it was.

00:41:29.775 --> 00:41:30.117
You know.

00:41:30.117 --> 00:41:32.822
I mean at that point, what is he?

00:41:32.822 --> 00:41:35.447
Because he got his manhood chopped off.

00:41:35.628 --> 00:41:37.739
But again, this is a rumor.

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:51.905
Uh, the the extent of the actions here are a rumor, because they think it's more of a negative portrayal of nero and because of all the shit that he was dealing with, I think that sure it was just an exaggeration, so to speak.

00:41:51.905 --> 00:42:06.438
Right, so Nero granted Greece its freedom by releasing them from giving taxes to the empire well, what a gentleman and he began construction of a canal but failed to complete it.

00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:16.503
but his actions in Greece were seen as favoritism and lavish spending Because of spores, no, because of his love for Greece.

00:42:16.503 --> 00:42:24.295
So a major Jewish revolt broke out in Judea and other parts of the Jewish homeland.

00:42:24.295 --> 00:42:28.826
A war broke out after the murder of a Syrian governor.

00:42:29.367 --> 00:42:29.728
Oh dear.

00:42:29.994 --> 00:42:37.688
So Vespasian, which was like a military guard member, was sent to squash the rebellion.

00:42:37.688 --> 00:42:40.682
Okay, and he successfully captured Jerusalem.

00:42:40.682 --> 00:42:45.121
Oh well, so that is now part of the Roman Empire, Congrats, I think.

00:42:45.121 --> 00:42:52.840
So Nero was persuaded to return to rome due to his growing unrest and opposition because he was still in greece.

00:42:53.461 --> 00:43:06.724
Right now, there happens to be a rebellion in rome oh dear yeah, so governor gaius julius vindex oh, you got Gaius and Julius in that name.

00:43:07.344 --> 00:43:13.231
He rebelled against Nero and he raised an army of like-minded individuals.

00:43:13.471 --> 00:43:13.952
Fair enough.

00:43:14.894 --> 00:43:16.240
Nero took no interest.

00:43:17.135 --> 00:43:18.099
He just didn't care.

00:43:18.275 --> 00:43:20.463
Nope, and he continued to build his palace.

00:43:20.855 --> 00:43:23.782
Oh, with his spore.

00:43:23.802 --> 00:43:25.266
Mm-hmm spores.

00:43:25.956 --> 00:43:31.775
I know, I know it was spores spore sporous?

00:43:31.795 --> 00:43:32.376
I know, I know it was spores.

00:43:32.376 --> 00:43:37.967
When nero's rule became increasingly unpopular, galba, a senator, declared himself emperor and gained support from other roman provinces.

00:43:38.168 --> 00:43:41.440
So he just said I'm the emperor now he's.

00:43:41.940 --> 00:44:07.161
He's in the situation where we're going to overthrow the current emperor and make me one oh wow, I mean, okay, did it work well, nero eventually betrayed, uh eventually betrayed and disposed by his own guards, he was declared a public enemy nero was okay and would be faced with the punishment of being paraded through the streets naked and beaten to death.

00:44:07.161 --> 00:44:09.545
Oh A la Game of Thrones.

00:44:10.608 --> 00:44:13.081
Cersei, but she wasn't beaten to death.

00:44:13.101 --> 00:44:17.740
She wasn't beaten, no, so I wrote down.

00:44:17.740 --> 00:44:20.447
Galba casually took the Emperor's new groove.

00:44:23.016 --> 00:44:24.563
Don't throw off his groove.

00:44:25.916 --> 00:44:32.807
So Nero actually committed suicide to avoid capture and execution by stabbing himself in the throat.

00:44:32.807 --> 00:44:37.463
Oh Jesus, His last words supposedly were you too, brutus.

00:44:37.664 --> 00:44:38.025
Oh wait no.

00:44:38.875 --> 00:44:40.601
What an artist dies here.

00:44:41.623 --> 00:44:42.346
Oh, good Lord.

00:44:43.695 --> 00:44:45.161
He was very popular in the arts.

00:44:45.601 --> 00:44:46.485
What did Sporus do?

00:44:47.494 --> 00:45:08.155
I don't know, know he probably grew up that was terrible, that was great I mean three sure on that one so nero nero died on june 9th of 68 ad wow, so he was in power for 68, you said AD 68 is when he died.

00:45:08.764 --> 00:45:09.393
So 14 years.

00:45:09.454 --> 00:45:11.722
And he was 16 in 54 AD.

00:45:12.175 --> 00:45:13.360
Wow, so he was only 30.

00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:13.983
Yeah.

00:45:14.815 --> 00:45:26.440
So what follows Nero's death is actually a moment in history that people refer to it as they call it the year of the four emperors.

00:45:27.304 --> 00:45:27.405
Oh.

00:45:28.295 --> 00:45:29.838
Guess how many emperors they had in one year.

00:45:29.838 --> 00:45:31.382
In one year I'm gonna go with five.

00:45:31.382 --> 00:45:40.885
No, damn it so close, wasn't I so it refers to the year starting in june of 68 ad to december of 69 ad.

00:45:40.885 --> 00:45:45.443
Okay, so during this year four emperors ruled, rome emerged.

00:45:46.105 --> 00:45:49.454
So nero, yeah, okay so they're still counting him.

00:45:49.454 --> 00:45:51.099
All right, yep and then galba.

00:45:51.338 --> 00:45:57.114
So he did end up taking um over the emperor position I say, take the throne.

00:45:57.195 --> 00:46:04.275
But they didn't really have a throne so he started june 9th of 68 okay to january 15th of 69.

00:46:05.077 --> 00:46:07.965
He was assassinated shortly after oh, oh wow.

00:46:08.226 --> 00:46:09.597
Why was he assassinated?

00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:10.460
I don't know.

00:46:10.460 --> 00:46:11.465
I'm talking about Nero.

00:46:13.137 --> 00:46:13.800
Fuck that guy.

00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:14.784
I don't know, he's not.

00:46:14.855 --> 00:46:15.135
Nero.

00:46:15.135 --> 00:46:17.003
Then there was Otto.

00:46:17.003 --> 00:46:28.963
He was a supporter of Gelba and he seized power after Gelba's assassination and he was an emperor from January 15th 69 AD to April 16th 69.

00:46:29.043 --> 00:46:29.085
AD.

00:46:29.085 --> 00:46:31.260
He was emperor for three months.

00:46:31.260 --> 00:46:32.525
Mm-hmm, good Lord.

00:46:32.755 --> 00:46:34.440
And then there was Vitellius.

00:46:34.882 --> 00:46:35.625
Vitellius.

00:46:35.775 --> 00:46:46.554
He was a general who defeated Otto in a civil war, oh, and he became emperor, okay, from April 16th, 69 to December 20th 69.

00:46:46.715 --> 00:46:48.280
I mean, at least he lasted eight months.

00:46:48.802 --> 00:46:55.586
Yes, and this brings me to the original idea that I had.

00:46:55.586 --> 00:46:57.880
Oh, that ties in with Nero.

00:46:57.880 --> 00:46:59.902
Okay, so this was the original idea.

00:46:59.902 --> 00:47:06.514
So the year of the four emperors was a time of great political instability and turmoil.

00:47:06.514 --> 00:47:07.336
We've got civil wars, we've got new leaders.

00:47:07.336 --> 00:47:08.539
I would have never guessed that with four different emperors was a time of great political instability and turmoil.

00:47:08.487 --> 00:47:09.007
We've got civil wars, we've got new leaders.

00:47:09.007 --> 00:47:11.784
I would have never guessed that with four different emperors within a year.

00:47:12.054 --> 00:47:20.481
So the rapid succession of emperors and the ensuing civil wars weakened the entire Roman Empire, makes sense, and it paved the way for the Flavian dynasty.

00:47:20.902 --> 00:47:21.824
Oh, not the Flavian.

00:47:22.126 --> 00:47:24.380
Yeah, Actually we like the Flavian dynasty.

00:47:24.380 --> 00:47:24.882
We sure do.

00:47:24.882 --> 00:47:30.516
It's our best dynasty.

00:47:30.536 --> 00:47:31.936
So at the end of December of 69, we welcome Vespasian Vespasian.

00:47:31.978 --> 00:47:34.059
And he ruled until 79 AD.

00:47:34.161 --> 00:47:36.903
So he ruled for almost 10 years Wow Okay.

00:47:37.445 --> 00:47:40.608
So guess what he does to Nero's palace.

00:47:40.608 --> 00:47:42.715
Burns it down.

00:47:42.715 --> 00:47:46.126
He fills in Nero's giant pool, oh okay.

00:47:46.126 --> 00:47:52.724
And he built the Flavian Amphitheater, but sadly he died before it was completed, sad Mm-hmm.

00:47:52.724 --> 00:48:00.568
So his son, titus, another Roman emperor from 79 AD to 81 AD, finished the amphitheater.

00:48:01.175 --> 00:48:04.085
Wait, he was emperor for those two years, or that's when they finished it.

00:48:04.597 --> 00:48:12.768
That's when he was emperor, okay, and they finished it in 80 oh, gotcha okay yeah, so what do you think the flavian amphitheater was?

00:48:14.592 --> 00:48:23.135
um, well, probably some place to do plays and stuff it was the coliseum oh, that's what it would have turned out to be.

00:48:23.878 --> 00:48:36.500
That's pretty it started off with the name flavian amphitheater, but it is in fact the coliseum, what we call today the coliseum okay, I did not know that, so that originally was nero's pool yes that's messed up.

00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:46.077
I had never heard that before fascinating yeah that is because I love the coliseum and obviously yeah I've mentioned before, big fan of gladiator, I mean my dog's named after him.

00:48:46.077 --> 00:48:49.547
He's not as cool as maximus in the movie, but whatever.

00:48:49.547 --> 00:48:54.063
Anyways, no, I never knew that's where that originated from.

00:48:54.083 --> 00:48:54.985
Isn't that cool.

00:48:55.186 --> 00:48:56.108
Yeah, that's kind of neat.

00:48:56.815 --> 00:49:05.554
So a lot of my information came from a documentary that I found on YouTube.

00:49:05.554 --> 00:49:08.623
Okay, it's called Nero the Evil Emperor.

00:49:10.697 --> 00:49:11.862
Should have been two question marks.

00:49:12.195 --> 00:49:14.322
Should have been like exclamation point.

00:49:15.204 --> 00:49:18.284
Yeah, or it should have been Nero.

00:49:18.284 --> 00:49:20.163
What did you say, nero the?

00:49:21.376 --> 00:49:22.159
I just closed it.

00:49:22.300 --> 00:49:23.123
Why did you do?

00:49:23.184 --> 00:49:29.420
that Nero the Evil Emperor or douchebag, or was he?

00:49:29.940 --> 00:49:33.168
well, he liked to exile people.

00:49:33.168 --> 00:49:35.942
I think we should and execute well, that too.

00:49:35.942 --> 00:49:42.579
Eventually he was a big fan of exile early on and then he's like, oh fucking, let's just kill these people yeah good lord.

00:49:42.579 --> 00:49:44.702
Yeah, he definitely liked.

00:49:44.702 --> 00:49:49.630
Uh, I don't know off people, family members, whatever.

00:49:49.989 --> 00:49:50.190
Yeah.

00:49:50.190 --> 00:49:55.177
Dicks either way, yeah, so yeah, I just I love that.

00:49:55.177 --> 00:50:04.507
It just kind of like full circle, like oh okay, we're going to build the Coliseum, which is going to last a hell of a lot longer than your memory, and that was Flavian Flavian.

00:50:04.507 --> 00:50:05.989
Amphitheater.

00:50:06.630 --> 00:50:07.110
Amphitheater?

00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:14.300
I never knew that isn't that cool that is kind of neat yeah when you went to Italy, did you go to Rome?

00:50:14.300 --> 00:50:14.822
Yes.

00:50:14.822 --> 00:50:16.304
Did you see the Colosseum?

00:50:16.304 --> 00:50:18.054
Yes, how was it beautiful.

00:50:18.338 --> 00:50:28.181
I'm not surprised so my mom was a chaperone when I went with our music group oh, that's who you went with yeah, it was a choir groupone when.

00:50:28.222 --> 00:50:28.766
I went with our music group.

00:50:28.786 --> 00:50:29.329
Oh, that's who you went with.

00:50:29.329 --> 00:50:29.954
Yeah, it was a choir group, okay.

00:50:29.974 --> 00:50:32.163
And Really you were in choir with how you sing.

00:50:32.163 --> 00:50:39.469
Holy shit, Wait what?

00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:41.978
This is news to me, folks.

00:50:42.791 --> 00:50:45.094
Holy crap, yeah, they put me in the back.

00:50:47.211 --> 00:50:48.876
I carried the equipment Wow.

00:50:52.369 --> 00:50:54.277
But yeah, so we went.

00:50:54.277 --> 00:50:58.844
It was, I think it was May of 2002.

00:50:58.844 --> 00:51:00.028
I say 2011.

00:51:00.028 --> 00:51:04.670
And we weren't sure that we were going to be able to go because 9-11 had just happened, Sure yeah.

00:51:04.670 --> 00:51:08.141
And so we ended up going.

00:51:08.141 --> 00:51:12.521
We got to sing in St Peter's Basilica, which was amazing, that's pretty awesome.

00:51:12.521 --> 00:51:18.882
Yeah, so we took lots of pictures Coliseum, the Duomo in Florence, et cetera.

00:51:18.882 --> 00:51:21.755
Our photos did not come out.

00:51:21.755 --> 00:51:27.900
Oh really, yeah, my mom thinks that it was probably from the scanners at the airport.

00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:29.463
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt.

00:51:29.463 --> 00:51:33.278
I mean because obviously it wasn't digital back then it was actual film.

00:51:33.278 --> 00:51:35.023
It was yeah, that's too bad.

00:51:35.251 --> 00:51:43.121
And she just recently went to did like a European cruise with my dad and I told her please replace our pictures of the Coliseum.

00:51:43.121 --> 00:51:52.523
I don't know if she was able to do that or not, but um, yeah, that kind of sucked, but that's too bad I do recall being there that's a feat in itself.

00:51:55.835 --> 00:51:59.461
That's one thing I've I hope to see before I die is I want to.

00:51:59.461 --> 00:52:18.643
I would love to see the coliseum yeah, they're actually um restoring it right now yeah, I heard that yeah they're cleaning it up yeah, um, and I'm sure doing some updates to help yeah, stabilize it yeah yeah, because I mean it's only well two thousand years old yeah, yeah, almost two thousand years old.

00:52:18.643 --> 00:52:20.733
So, yeah, that's, that's wild.

00:52:20.733 --> 00:52:25.284
Yeah, it's too bad those pictures didn't turn out, yeah but that's the Emperor Nero.

00:52:25.284 --> 00:52:27.536
Well, he was kind of a D-bag.

00:52:27.797 --> 00:52:28.059
Yeah.

00:52:28.911 --> 00:52:32.742
I mean let's exile and kill people, yeah, towards the end, especially.

00:52:32.742 --> 00:52:35.255
And I don't know.

00:52:35.255 --> 00:52:38.476
I mean I knew of Nero, I didn't know any of that.

00:52:38.617 --> 00:52:38.878
Yeah.

00:52:39.409 --> 00:52:40.972
I like how it basically stemmed the production of the Coliseum though.

00:52:40.972 --> 00:52:44.594
Yeah, but basically stemmed the production of the Coliseum though.

00:52:44.815 --> 00:52:45.175
Yeah.

00:52:45.496 --> 00:52:47.737
Because again, obviously gladiators all that.

00:52:48.278 --> 00:52:50.820
And that's where I started my research was the Coliseum.

00:52:50.820 --> 00:53:03.641
Was it, yeah, and I was actually going to research gladiators in a specific fight, but there was nothing on this fight, and so then I started working backwards.

00:53:03.762 --> 00:53:04.387
And I was like built on Nero.

00:53:04.449 --> 00:53:05.295
Who what?

00:53:05.538 --> 00:53:06.289
Wait, wait, what now?

00:53:06.289 --> 00:53:09.016
Yeah did I ever tell you um?

00:53:09.016 --> 00:53:12.146
I remember I was at my, where my parents live now um.

00:53:12.146 --> 00:53:16.235
One blockbuster was still a thing oh yeah people.

00:53:16.235 --> 00:53:29.889
That's where you used to rent videos anyways movies, aka movies movies on the vhs yeah, I bought some vhs's from there, but, um, so gladiator came out in 2000.

00:53:30.891 --> 00:53:37.043
Oh gosh, one best picture in one, um, when it was on video.

00:53:37.043 --> 00:53:39.588
Obviously it's a big thing.

00:53:39.588 --> 00:53:49.429
They had posters, so the blockbuster that was not too like a town or so over had, you know, like their windows, but it had, like the big bars in between.

00:53:49.429 --> 00:53:53.559
So it was, like you know, four different windows and they had it all cut up but it was in the windows.

00:53:53.740 --> 00:53:54.282
Oh, that's cool.

00:53:54.789 --> 00:53:58.097
The big ass poster of Maximus fighting the.

00:53:58.097 --> 00:54:00.402
What is his name?

00:54:00.402 --> 00:54:01.996
Tigress of the Gaul or whatever.

00:54:01.996 --> 00:54:13.958
I'm probably saying it wrong, but he was the one with the tigers in the fight, basically, uh, where joaquin phoenix was trying to get him killed.

00:54:13.958 --> 00:54:18.695
But um, it's a really cool poster and so I went and asked him like, hey, when you're done with this, can I have that?

00:54:18.695 --> 00:54:22.570
And I was at my parents one day and all of a sudden I get a call from blockbuster.

00:54:22.570 --> 00:54:23.532
It's like that's crazy.

00:54:23.532 --> 00:54:24.235
Hey, would you like?

00:54:24.235 --> 00:54:25.157
I mean, yeah, I'll be right over.

00:54:25.157 --> 00:54:30.072
So I went, drove over and so I have this giant four section poster.

00:54:30.072 --> 00:54:33.123
I have no idea where I'm ever gonna put it but.

00:54:33.143 --> 00:54:43.577
I think it's actually in my parents basement, but uh that's amazing that they like thought of you and they they actually kept like my note like, hey, this guy, yeah, wants this.

00:54:44.077 --> 00:54:44.900
Uh, let's give him a call.

00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:46.224
I'm like holy shit they.

00:54:46.369 --> 00:54:48.195
Yeah, the follow-through was pretty great.

00:54:48.215 --> 00:55:04.277
Well, it's great too, because it's actually like almost kind of like laminated yeah, so it's not really some of the corners got torn when they took it down, or whatever right, probably taped up or something, yeah and then they had like these big strips on the back that I just like put paper over to cover up the sticky parts and whatnot.

00:55:04.277 --> 00:55:06.239
But someday I'll find it.

00:55:06.260 --> 00:55:15.556
But I love that because of the coliseum, it's in the background and such and whatever, but and all the different things they used to do in the coliseum, like flood it for naval battles and shit.

00:55:15.556 --> 00:55:16.778
I think that's a rumor.

00:55:17.420 --> 00:55:23.775
I don't think it is stay tuned for a future episode and and Coliseum, part 2.

00:55:25.496 --> 00:55:26.177
It could be a rumor.

00:55:26.177 --> 00:55:27.719
I mean, lots of things are rumors.

00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.742
Yeah, clearly, we just had a story full of them.

00:55:31.003 --> 00:55:34.467
Yeah, I know, exile Whatever, Ta-da Well no.

00:55:38.751 --> 00:55:40.697
I never knew it was called the Flavian Whatchamacallit Amphitheater.

00:55:40.697 --> 00:55:41.237
Amphitheater, yeah.

00:55:42.061 --> 00:55:50.557
That's cool, yeah, that's cool and I did not know that, yeah, well, there I learned something cool about something I like I know, but uh, well, you finished your beer.

00:55:51.099 --> 00:55:52.882
I did and you did get a second one.

00:55:52.963 --> 00:55:57.679
I did, and I finished that one, so oh, I am behind well, you again.

00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:08.271
You do the most of the talking for the story, part of it, and I just interject, so you're very welcome thank you very much um potosi hazy bluff hazy ipa.

00:56:08.452 --> 00:56:19.137
I'll give it a thumbs up yeah, and I I enjoyed the lake front brewery from oh, it's the brew sickle peach mango wheat ale I did like it.

00:56:19.657 --> 00:56:22.992
I wouldn't have this a ton I don't think it's something you could like.

00:56:22.992 --> 00:56:26.581
Like me and summer shandy, I could sit down and probably have a 12 pack, right?

00:56:26.581 --> 00:56:27.755
I could not do that with that.

00:56:27.815 --> 00:56:29.456
Yeah Right, but it's really good.

00:56:29.757 --> 00:56:30.521
One or two would be good.

00:56:30.702 --> 00:56:30.884
Yeah.

00:56:31.269 --> 00:56:36.695
As it's like a kind of a different you know obviously flavor, but I enjoy it, I like it.

00:56:36.914 --> 00:56:37.536
Yeah, it's good.

00:56:38.036 --> 00:56:43.581
So Thumbs up, but well, all right, cool.

00:56:43.581 --> 00:56:45.523
Thank you for teaching me about Nero.

00:56:45.523 --> 00:56:49.027
Hopefully some other people learn some stuff and whatnot.

00:56:49.027 --> 00:56:53.152
And thank you for listening.

00:56:53.452 --> 00:56:55.635
And I think so.

00:56:55.635 --> 00:57:02.625
I want to watch Gladiator now, but it's overplayed in my house Because it's good, it's just good.

00:57:04.869 --> 00:57:05.911
The problem is you put it on when you go to bed.

00:57:05.931 --> 00:57:18.103
You actually have like watch it I know, but I don't want to fall asleep I don't think you will well, we've got a brewers game pending and we've got a packers game pending.

00:57:18.103 --> 00:57:18.724
And what?

00:57:18.784 --> 00:57:20.291
do you mean pending they're happening?

00:57:20.452 --> 00:57:26.784
well, I know, but like I don't think there's time for a movie because I have to like kill you with my dinner.

00:57:27.869 --> 00:57:31.581
Well, I suppose All right, see ya All right, buffoons.

00:57:31.581 --> 00:57:33.135
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